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The country is at the mercy of an insane immigration propped up by big business, bushy-tailed liberals who believe these people will come here and prosper, and liberals who know they won't prosper but will bloc vote for democrats. Eventually there will be a geographical migration away from certain areas of the country, driven by the disintegration of what's left of a shared culture. As unlikely as that sounds, it's more likely than the other scenario which is that our immigration policy continues as is, works out wonderfully for our culture, crime rate and economy, and we all live happily ever after.

You seriously have your head in the sand if you think that the big business Republican interests aren't equally invested in our dysfunctional immigration system. If this system was solely the fault of the evil libruls, the Republicans could have addressed it at any time from 2000-2008. They have no interest in doing so, since it serves the big business overlords and gives them a nice scary enemy to rile up the moron base.
post #122 of 219
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Nothing says racial blindness like using racial quotas as a benchmark for success.

The country is at the mercy of an insane immigration propped up by big business, bushy-tailed liberals who believe these people will come here and prosper, and liberals who know they won't prosper but will bloc vote for democrats. Eventually there will be a geographical migration away from certain areas of the country, driven by the disintegration of what's left of a shared culture. As unlikely as that sounds, it's more likely than the other scenario which is that our immigration policy continues as is, works out wonderfully for our culture, crime rate and economy, and we all live happily ever after.


I also believe there is a class of liberals (including our president) who want the U.S. to be brought down a notch or two from its high horse. We stole land from Indians, had slavery, Jim Crow, and women stuff, microaggress and rape by structural posited agronomic gender transmutation . . . .


so we should suffer.

Some people just want to watch the world burn. Its not a decision; its their nature.
post #123 of 219
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

You seriously have your head in the sand if you think that the big business Republican interests aren't equally invested in our dysfunctional immigration system. If this system was solely the fault of the evil libruls, the Republicans could have addressed it at any time from 2000-2008. They have no interest in doing so, since it serves the big business overlords and gives them a nice scary enemy to rile up the moron base.


I totally agree with this (except for any anti-suited residue). No sarcasm either.
post #124 of 219
Yeah, suited, pull your head out of the sand and admit the role big business has played! I mean, it's right there in front of you. How could you not see it?
post #125 of 219
Another thorough rebuttal from Ataturk.
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post #127 of 219
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Another thorough rebuttal from Ataturk.

I was just making fun of the way you apparently missed the fact that his post started with:
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The country is at the mercy of an insane immigration propped up by big business
post #128 of 219
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

I was just making fun of the way you apparently missed the fact that his post started with:

Don't be disingenuous. If he meant to say that it was a bipartisan issue, he'd have said that instead of making a bunch of digs at liberals.
post #129 of 219
I'm about half way through Ann Coulter's new book on immigration.

http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433476218&sr=8-1&keywords=adios+america&pebp=1433476216993&perid=0K4CKYYDMYC47TDMA7TY


The more I read, the more I am convinced that our immigration policies will be the end of America. I've seen anecdotal evidence of this, but Coulter's book lays out the facts that indicate that things are much worse than I thought.

America is screwed, and we've pretty much done it to ourselves.
post #130 of 219
Are you really taking Ann Coulter as a serious analyst?
post #131 of 219
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Are you really taking Ann Coulter as a serious analyst?

She is better than a serious analyst, in that she is not concerned with other people's opinions.
post #132 of 219
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I'm about half way through Ann Coulter's new book on immigration.

http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433476218&sr=8-1&keywords=adios+america&pebp=1433476216993&perid=0K4CKYYDMYC47TDMA7TY


The more I read, the more I am convinced that our immigration policies will be the end of America. I've seen anecdotal evidence of this, but Coulter's book lays out the facts that indicate that things are much worse than I thought.

America is screwed, and we've pretty much done it to ourselves.



Welcome to the club. People will start to see what has been done, but its really too late at this point.

They won.

So just sit back and enjoy life while you still can.
post #133 of 219
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She is better than a serious analyst, in that she is not concerned with other people's opinions.

On the contrary, I think Ann Coulter is very good at faking she doesn't care; however, she is just as concerned as everyone else. She's very good at speaking to an audience and making money firing up a base of people. The more she pisses off the left or any variety of groups, the more attention she gets and the more books she sells.

I believe her inflammatory statements are carefully planned to get as much attention as possible.

I don't blame her - she's found a very effective way to get rich without even working that hard.
post #134 of 219
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

You seriously have your head in the sand if you think that the big business Republican interests aren't equally invested in our dysfunctional immigration system. If this system was solely the fault of the evil libruls, the Republicans could have addressed it at any time from 2000-2008. They have no interest in doing so, since it serves the big business overlords and gives them a nice scary enemy to rile up the moron base.

I agree and I specifically mentioned big business in my post. Big business would certainly include a lot of republicans.
post #135 of 219
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

On the contrary, I think Ann Coulter is very good at faking she doesn't care; however, she is just as concerned as everyone else. She's very good at speaking to an audience and making money firing up a base of people. The more she pisses off the left or any variety of groups, the more attention she gets and the more books she sells.

I believe her inflammatory statements are carefully planned to get as much attention as possible.

I don't blame her - she's found a very effective way to get rich without even working that hard.

I'm sure she's generally conservative, but she comes off as incredibly cynical and calculated in her public voice when she's talking in an environment that isn't slavishly pandering (eg, Hannity). I saw her on Bill Maher, and she couldn't even begin to defend her viewpoints. She just reflexively fell back on, "Well, THE LIBERALS are the real problem" so the crowd would boo her and she could dodge having to actually build a real response. It was honestly painful, like you know she has some real views buried in there somewhere but can't hold her gimmick together well enough to even have a voice when the situation isn't accommodating. When she's on Hannity or whatever, they're playing into the shtick and she can just be the character and run with her carefully calculated views without challenge.

So now there's a bunch of middle America types who are worried about the Brown Menace and she comes out with a book on immigration. They can buy the book, have their own views reflected back on them, and feel vindicated without having to think too hard. The left can get all outraged about whatever deliberately outrageous claims she stuffed in this particular book, and she can make money.
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