Some Attolini Pictures of Interest

TheFoo · Apr 23, 2007

You know, I'm all in favor of adapting clothes for substantial functional considerations. It's the best reason for breaking a 'rule'. The problem with this monstrosity of a cuff is that I cannot fathom what advantage it has over a cuff that is simply cut larger: (1) a larger cuff is easier and cheaper to manufacture, (2) a larger cuff affords better protection to the watch, and (3) a larger cuff looks less ridiculous when you aren't wearing a watch at all.

It's just a needlessly complex and inefficient solution for a simple problem. That's why it's ugly. Otherwise, my eyes might have caught up with my mind soon enough and it would look fine.

LabelKing · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by luk-cha

in fact the watch cuff was design for the Fiat boss due to his allegy to the backs of watches. the shirt should be made by interno 8, http://www.interno8.net/prova.htm they is also responcable for the 3-4 button collared shirts of 3-4 years ago tread
I don't believe that's true. The Fiat CEO, Gianni Agnelli, did not wear those Interno8 cuffs--I suspect the company wasn't even founded during Agnelli's lifetime. Agnelli wore watches outside of his tight barrel cuffs.

Those tacky Intero8 cuffs were specifically designed for a contingent of people insistent on showing off their grossly over-sized wristwatches. The fact that this company is Italian is not surprising considering they are especially fond of emulating Agnelli's stylistic quirks: tie outside sweater, watch on cuff, etc.

luk-cha · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by LabelKing

I don't believe that's true. The Fiat CEO, Gianni Agnelli, did not wear those Interno8 cuffs--I suspect the company wasn't even founded during Agnelli's lifetime. Agnelli wore watches outside of his tight barrel cuffs.

Those tacky Intero8 cuffs were specifically designed for a contingent of people insistent on showing off their grossly over-sized wristwatches. The fact that this company is Italian is not surprising considering they are especially fond of emulating Agnelli's stylistic quirks: tie outside sweater, watch on cuff, etc.

i think if you read some of the press releases you will find they were design for him. i will see if i can find the post and stick it up here - but i might have mis-read, i'll be back!

LabelKing · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by luk-cha

i think if you read some of the press releases you will find they were design for him. i will see if i can find the post and stick it up here - but i might have mis-read, i'll be back!
The company claims to have made such a shirt; however, I believe it's completely false, and through some sly marketing, they tout this bit of mendacious glamour.

Swann · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by texas_jack

Who are we talking about?

The guy on the left is Giancarlo Maresca, the Gran Maestro del Cavalleresco dei Guardiani delle Nove Porte.

LabelKing · Apr 23, 2007

Is that Nove Porte some form of a Satanic cult?

The site is rather interesting in its insistence on decadence and the whole devilish image it portrays; however, what exactly is the whole premise?

luk-cha · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by LabelKing

The company claims to have made such a shirt; however, I believe it's completely false, and through some sly marketing, they tout this bit of mendacious glamour.

can not seem to find the press release but interno 8 was founded in 1990 so i dont know if is any use i will need to check my home PC see it is there

neyus · Apr 23, 2007

I think the style in the pictures and through napoli varies quite alot. There are obviously certain trademarks that sets a maker apart but I think there are too many variables here. I would like to know what impact fashion designers have on bespoke designs too. Throughout the 70s and 80s gorge heights and button stances also changed?
Even style that is deemed to be attributed through savile row differs on the maker. And obviously, will vary depending on what the customer would like as well, no?

Dragon · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by edmorel

Oh, and Pirozzi and Solito have the top two buttons of their suit jackets buttoned.

And is the DB suit of the client unvented?????????

What`s wrong with buttoning the top 2 buttons on a 3 button jacket, and getting a DB with no vents?

Dragon · Apr 23, 2007

While the Rubinacci, Solito type jackets are excellent examples of the traditional (or original) style of Naples, here`s an example of the other side of the spectrum. Apparently, he is the longest practicing tailor in Naples:

Check out the ultra high gorge and exaggerated manica camicia. Also notice that there isn`t much drape throughout the jacket like the other examples, and the fit is fairly tight to the body, like more fashion forward silouettes.

Between examples like Rubinacci (ultra traditional) and the modern example above, there are many more styles in between.

Ivan Kipling · Apr 23, 2007

What`s wrong with buttoning the top 2 buttons on a 3 button jacket, and getting a DB with no vents?
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Nothing.

itsstillmatt · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by Dragon

While the Rubinacci, Solito type jackets are excellent examples of the traditional (or original) style of Naples, here`s an example of the other side of the spectrum. Apparently, he is the longest practicing tailor in Naples:

Check out the ultra high gorge and exaggerated manica camicia. Also notice that there isn`t much drape throughout the jacket like the other examples, and the fit is fairly tight to the body, like more fashion forward silouettes.

Between examples like Rubinacci (ultra traditional) and the modern example above, there are many more styles in between.
That just looks wrong too me. It seems like a charicature. Is it popular in Japan? All of the web references I found were Japanese.

DocHolliday · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by Dragon

Check out the ultra high gorge and exaggerated manica camicia. Also notice that there isn`t much drape throughout the jacket like the other examples, and the fit is fairly tight to the body, like more fashion forward silouettes.

I have a very visceral negative reaction to the high gorge. Such eye-grabbing details, in my mind, lack elegance, and extremes in men's clothing usually prove a liability in the long run. Perhaps this is the '08 version of the huge lapels of the '70s, or the artificially large shoulders of the '80s?

Manton · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by iammatt

That just looks wrong too me. It seems like a charicature. Is it popular in Japan? All of the web references I found were Japanese.

I'm surprised none of our resident language police have beaten you over the head with this yet. Caricature does not have an "h".

Manton · Apr 23, 2007

Originally Posted by Ivan Kipling

What`s wrong with buttoning the top 2 buttons on a 3 button jacket, and getting a DB with no vents?

Nothing wrong with the latter, but I personally hate the way the former looks. It closes the coat too much and freezes the chest in place, preventing the waist button from performing its proper function as a "fulcrum". The suit just does not move and flow the same way.

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