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post #31 of 49
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Originally Posted by jeff13007 View Post


Hickey Freeman, Hickey, H. Freeman, Hickey Freeman Presidential. And these are ones I've just seen I'm sure there are others


thanks. also hickey freeman limited. i had the urge to answer but i kept reminding myself that this was not a h freeman thread so we can just kill it here.

post #32 of 49
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Hickey Freeman, Hickey, H. Freeman, Hickey Freeman Presidential. And these are ones I've just seen I'm sure there are others

You're confusing H. Freeman with Hickey Freeman.
post #33 of 49
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Hickey Freeman, Hickey, H. Freeman, Hickey Freeman Presidential. And these are ones I've just seen I'm sure there are others

H.Freeman is completely distinct from Hickey Freeman. They are different companies.
post #34 of 49
I know how u think about brand name expensive suit stores, they are made to last yea its true but zara is an inexpensive brand you will never regret trying. i use to buy those to but since i was told about zara, i buy all my work and casual suits and trust me they fit perfect wether single or Double vents, slim or tailored so far as i get my size.its value for money try it
post #35 of 49
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by doctorman View Post

1. can't go wrong with brooks golden fleece (fully canvassed and brooks has been having 20% - 25% sale periodically.  with opening a credit card, that's another 15% off if you wish). alternatively, if budget is an issue, i don't think it's a crime to get an 1818 as your first suit.

 

2. you can't go wrong with paul stuart either, although PS is a notch higher at least in terms of pricing.  if your budget only allows a low end PS, i'd rather go with a golden fleece.

 

3. I particularly favor ralph lauren black label but they usually start at around 2g and sales have been hit and miss (25% off a few days ago). if you have a buddy that works for the corporate then you can get a 50% off.  they're appropriately progressive and sharp but not as aggressive as suitsupply.

 

These were certainly the direction I was leaning. I'm not ready to have a suit bespeakened or MTM—it sounds daunting.

 

finally - keep it simple.  having too many choices for your first suit CAN confuse you .  you are not expected to get it perfectly right the first time around anyway.  good luck with the girl - i'm sure she will be far more impressed by your generosity to the charity and your gentlemanly sincerity than whatever suit you choose to wear.

 

Yeah, I think she likes me as a person, but I just want to have her raise and eyebrow and think "Damn!" I'm really not going through this just for her, either. I need a sharp-looking suit, and this is an excuse. I think I'm a good guy and a good catch, and I know I'm about more than a suit. Thanks.

 

in terms of shoes, i still swear by allen edmonds although there are many "better" shoes out there.  they're having their 91st anniversary sale right now.

 

Yeah, I looked through their stuff online, and think the Flatiron and the Vernon look interesting (either in brown). I think they look whimsically destructured with the perforations on the solid leather rather than the cap toe or wingtip. I think the brown New Orleans are fun, but maybe for some other time with a blazer instead of a suit.

 

Thanks for all your advice, DM.

post #36 of 49
Thread Starter 
Ok, to quickly review the findings:
 
SUITS
Armani
Collezonion Armani is in the price range. Possibly made by Zegna.
Barneys
Pick a style or it will be overwhelming.
Brooks Brothers
Can't go wrong. Once ruled the roost, but fewer options now. Good sales periodically.
BB MTM: Not necessarily worth the added cost unless you're freakishly-proportioned. About $2,200. 
Golden Fleece: Good choice, but not quite up to Samuelsohn. Fully-canvassed. $1,800.
BrooksCool: Eh. Fused & made in China. $700
J. Press
Yawn. Skip it.
Paul Stuart
Samuelsohn: Good choice for price range. Made with higher quality fabric than other Samuelsohns. About $1600
Phineas Cole: Out of price range, but good choice for excellent quality, attention-getting suits. About $2100.
Ralph Lauren
Black Label which unless you have a specific type of body its not really going to do you justice.
Purple label is also nice but its a bit above your price range. 
Polo from the Mansion on 72nd.
Saks
Check out Isaih although a bit out of price range.
Zara
Not in my price range. About $250.
Zegna
Neutral type of fit.
 
SHOES
Alden
Allen Edmonds—Factory Seconds from Freeport, Maine. (Edward Wickham)
Church's
C&J
Leffrot
Lobb
Paul Stuart
 
CUSTOM WORK
LS Men's Clothing on 45th. MTM for about $700. (Izzy)
Manolo Costa on Madison Ave at 41st. $1700 for fully bespoke.
Winston Tailors 44th Street. Only MTM and Bespoke (Chipp)
 
OTHER NOTES
Don't get pinstripes, even if subtle.
Side vents over center vent.
Lexus=BMW=Audi=Acura, but suiting≠suits.
post #37 of 49
Thread Starter 
OK, to review the findings so far:
 
SUITS
Armani
Collezonion Armani is in the price range. Possibly made by Zegna.
Barneys
Pick a style or it will be overwhelming.
Brooks Brothers
Can't go wrong. Once ruled the roost, but fewer options now. Good sales periodically.
BB MTM: Not necessarily worth the added cost unless you're freakishly-proportioned. About $2,200. 
Golden Fleece: Good choice, but not quite up to Samuelsohn. Fully-canvassed. $1,800.
BrooksCool: Eh. Fused & made in China. $700
J. Press
Yawn. Skip it.
Paul Stuart
Samuelsohn: Good choice for price range. Made with higher quality fabric than other Samuelsohns. About $1600
Phineas Cole: Out of price range, but good choice for excellent quality, attention-getting suits. About $2100.
Ralph Lauren
Black Label which unless you have a specific type of body its not really going to do you justice.
Purple label is also nice but its a bit above your price range. 
Polo from the Mansion on 72nd.
Saks
Check out Isaih although a bit out of price range.
Zara
Not in my price range. About $250.
Zegna
Neutral type of fit.
 
SHOES
Alden
Allen Edmonds—Factory Seconds from Freeport, Maine. (Edward Wickham)
Church's
C&J
Leffrot
Lobb
Paul Stuart
 
CUSTOM WORK
LS Men's Clothing on 45th. MTM for about $700. (Izzy)
Winston Tailors 44th Street. Only MTM and Bespoke(Chipp)
Manolo Costa on Madison Ave at 41st. $1700 for fully bespoke.
 
OTHER NOTES
Don't get pinstripes, even if subtle.
Side vents over center vent.
Lexus=BMW=Audi=Acura, but suiting≠suits.
post #38 of 49
@ John B.: Since you're just getting into MC forum stuff at age 40 and have the financial means, I say skip ahead to the good stuff.

This is a pretty easy one for me.

Get a pair of Crockett and Jones stitch caps or punch caps in brown calf. Look at the Hallam or Westbourne. Stay away from Allen Edmonds. They're made with much stiffer leather, and don't have less elegant lasts.

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http://www.crockettandjones.com/Product/Hallam-Darkbrown#.UXTGybUQbng

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http://www.crockettandjones.com/Product/Westbourne-Chestnut#.UXTHjLUQbng

You don't want to get black for a semi-formal event. Black shoes are usually reserved for "UCBD" (forum jargon for Ultra Conservative Business Dress")

Suit Supply would probably be the best value in town if you want a simple navy suit. Half canvas, decent fabrics, and modern cuts.

Just make sure it fits. They seem to be shoehorning a lot of people into skinny suits as of late, judging from forum posts. There's a fine line between classically trim and skinny. (The latter is bad)

Bill should probably come to about $1000 to $1200 ($500ish for the suit; $550ish for the shoes)

Or you could go with Paul Stuart and get what you really want. Make sure it has double vents. Bill would probably come in around $2k

Hope this helps
Edited by jrd617 - 4/21/13 at 10:38pm
post #39 of 49
I was at the Paul Stuart store on Madison huge place. Makes you want to stay longer and try on all the clothes there. I'm definitely a fan.
post #40 of 49
BrooksCool suits are fully canvassed, not fused. At least the regular models are. They may have an oddball unstructured jacket that isn't.
post #41 of 49
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post

@ John B.: Since you're just getting into MC forum stuff at age 40 and have the financial means, I say skip ahead to the good stuff.

This is a pretty easy one for me.

Get a pair of Crockett and Jones stitch caps or punch caps in brown calf. Look at the Hallam or Westbourne. Stay away from Allen Edmonds. They're made with much stiffer leather, and don't have less elegant lasts.
 

I like both of those. You guys all have me hooked on these clothes!!! I've really got to reevaluate my clothing budget. I knew this could be a dangerous can of worms to open up. I'm looking and drooling.

 

JRD: What do you think of these:

http://www.ferragamo.com/wcsstore/FerragamoCatalogAssetStore/images/products/472821/472821_00_zoom.jpg

Yeah, they're $920, which is above what I wanted to spend, but I like them. A nice mix between modern and classic.

A girl I know who works in women's fashion suggested that I check Feragamo out too.

 

And I love these:

http://media.johnlobb.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnai/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/h/lhuttonwe1-1_4.png

But they're $1600. Sigh. And that's what I wanted to spend just on the suit. LOL. I may have to step it up a notch in the shoes.


Edited by John B - 4/22/13 at 7:11pm
post #42 of 49
^ Seems you like "Austerity brogues." Basically a v-shaped toe with no medallion and limited broguing.

And you also seem like like lighter brown colors.

The JL's are nice, if you want to drop that kind of change.

Stay away from the Ferragamo's. Not a good value, and they're honestly not great looking. I prefer a more English looking shoe.

Might want to try out the C&J Drummond.

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http://www.crockettandjones.com/Product/Drummond-Tan#.UXXqrbUQbng

Some stores carry it in brown:

Drummond.jpg


Also, there's the Vass Austerity brogue, but there are no showrooms in NYC. I'm in the process of getting a pair of email-order Vass shoes, and it might take a few months. It's a Hungarian-made shoe with an English shape

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post #43 of 49
+1 on the C&J Drummond. I've got a pair in brown and they are excellent - a really nice looking, versatile shoe that looks great with a navy or charcoal suit, but also looks good with a pair of cotton chino trousers.
post #44 of 49
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Originally Posted by John B View Post

A girl I know who works in women's fashion suggested that I check Feragamo out too.

It's funny when women name drop brands like this.
post #45 of 49

That ferragamo shoe: NO. Please, no. At that price point, you can probably get some EGs or G&Gs if you know where to look, which are not only vastly superior in design, but also in workmanship and construction. 

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