I think it was around 4.500€ two years ago (2013).
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Antonio Liverano, Florentine tailor - Page 14post #197 of 2241/27/16 at 8:46ampost #198 of 2241/27/16 at 6:39pmpost #199 of 2241/27/16 at 6:50pmpost #200 of 2241/27/16 at 8:45pmpost #201 of 2241/28/16 at 12:02amQuote:
The 'problem' is, us outside of Italy and more specifically Florence (if we are talking about a 'Florence' style, should one exist), is that we don't know how to find these tailors or if they are any good, because they have limited internet presence?post #202 of 2241/28/16 at 2:27amWell, likely Liverano has been seen in the right medias, people have liked what they've seen or read, and demand has risen. L&L cannot handle dozens of new clients in a heartbeat, so they've raised their prices to limit new members in the L&L Club. If men are willing to pay these kinds of sums, then the price is right -- but likely the price-quality deal is not great anymore. There are thousands of tailors in Italy and many of them are not known online or internationally. Who knows what skills are just waiting to be discovered?post #203 of 2241/28/16 at 4:19amMany tailors in Milan and Florence charges €4000-5000 for a suit - clearly there's a market for it. Take Sartoria Luigi Cappelli as an exemple. Who has ever heard of him on Styleforum? He charges €4000-4500 for a two-piece if I recall correctly. He works out of a small apartment near Piazza della Repubblica, and has never been mentioned by any high end retailer ever. Of course you will pay a premium to have a tailor visit you in Hong Kong, Tokyo or New York, no retailer sets up a trunk show for free.post #204 of 2241/28/16 at 8:44amI have tried to email L&L x3 times in the last year (as well as a friend), with no responses. It looks like they don't care for direct contact from new US customers, only through The Armoury. Maybe their operation is too small for new business, but I'm always discouraged by bad customer communication...
Edited by JubeiSpiegel - 1/28/16 at 12:08pmpost #205 of 2241/28/16 at 9:17am
Which other tailors in Florence have a house style similar to Liverano? The roundness, lapel roll, open quarters, and absent front darts are all Florentine traits. I have not seen any tailors in Florence with such easily distinguishable roundness and lapel roll compared to Liverano.
@Leaves, Sartoria Capelli looks pretty good. One of the jackets on his website has the very Florentine roundness and lapel shape. While they aren't mentioned much on StyeForum their website is translated in several languages including Russian. I am sure they get plenty of business internationally hence the prices.post #206 of 2241/28/16 at 11:21ampost #207 of 2241/28/16 at 1:56pmQuote:Originally Posted by Leaves
Many tailors in Milan and Florence charges €4000-5000 for a suit - clearly there's a market for it. Take Sartoria Luigi Cappelli as an exemple. Who has ever heard of him on Styleforum? He charges €4000-4500 for a two-piece if I recall correctly. He works out of a small apartment near Piazza della Repubblica, and has never been mentioned by any high end retailer ever. Of course you will pay a premium to have a tailor visit you in Hong Kong, Tokyo or New York, no retailer sets up a trunk show for free.
Cappelli is about 3500 euros for a two piece
Depends by fabric...and by customer.
Edited by carpu65 - 1/28/16 at 2:41pmpost #208 of 2241/28/16 at 4:44pmQuote:Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel
I have tried to email L&L x3 times in the last year (as well as a friend), with no responses. It looks like they don't care for direct contact from new US customers, only through The Armoury. Maybe their operation is too small for new business, but I'm always discouraged by bad customer communication...
Did a very unscientific A/B test on this subject a year ago. Emailed twice for information: once in English and once in Italian. No reply in English. Complete reply in Italian. Not exactly a representative sample, but could be an explanation.post #209 of 2241/28/16 at 5:20pmQuote:
I'll have to see if I get a response with this method. My friend emailed in Japanese, hoping to hear from Taka at least. No luck there...post #210 of 2242/1/16 at 10:54am
Florentines (especially traders) are reserved,suspicious and a bit cold.
Established tailors have their customers and don't care much to procure new,especially if are to top,as Liverano at this time.
Many tailors are "invisibles",working at home with a bunch of loyal customers,in this way not pay taxes or rent for the shop...and of course the price is at reasonable level.
In Italy is called "economia sommersa" ("underwater economy" or "shadow economy")...also many "visible" tailors work in this way for some good trusty customers.
In few words,generally 5000 euros for a bespoke suit is a price for foreigners,or for unaccustomed and unfamiliar customer...or for few tailorshop internationally recognized with a wealthy international clientele.
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