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post #31 of 52
I can't remember not ever having a suit.
post #32 of 52
Yes, as school uniform at an English Public School - for our American friends, those are private fee paying schools. Grey herringbone in wool from aged 8 changing to plain grey at 14.

First suit was from my father's bespoke tailor in when I was 16.
post #33 of 52
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Forcing a child to wear clothes that makes him stand out and be picked at, is not wise.  Forcing someone to wear clothes that he is not comfortable in, is not wise.  Saying black is a colour suited only for funerals is also not wise.  That is a hang up of theirs and they reflect a minority position in society.  People who study colours all say the same thing:  black is the colour of formality and elegance.  It is the main reason why tuxes are black.  The satin trims adds to the elegance.  The black and white contrast adds to the elegance.  I am not in the camp that says that a plain black suit should be worn for everyday occasions.  It is too formal of a colour.  You cheapen it by doing so.  It should be saved for special occasions that occur in the evenings.

You're not going to find many people here who think dressing in a black suit is a good idea. If you want to have that argument, there are plenty of threads about it.
post #34 of 52
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You're not going to find many people here who think dressing in a black suit is a good idea. If you want to have that argument, there are plenty of threads about it.

Sadly on both counts
post #35 of 52
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I'm sorry what?!

post #36 of 52
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Originally Posted by socrates View Post


Forcing a child to wear clothes that makes him stand out and be picked at, is not wise.  Forcing someone to wear clothes that he is not comfortable in, is not wise.  Saying black is a colour suited only for funerals is also not wise.  That is a hang up of theirs and they reflect a minority position in society.  People who study colours all say the same thing:  black is the colour of formality and elegance.  It is the main reason why tuxes are black.  The satin trims adds to the elegance.  The black and white contrast adds to the elegance.  I am not in the camp that says that a plain black suit should be worn for everyday occasions.  It is too formal of a colour.  You cheapen it by doing so.  It should be saved for special occasions that occur in the evenings.

Brilliant Socratic logic.
post #37 of 52
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You're not going to find many people here who think dressing in a black suit is a good idea. If you want to have that argument, there are plenty of threads about it.


I have read these threads.  The view that black is only appropriate for funerals, if at that, and is not a formal colour is the view of a vocal minority here on this forum.  I am not here to change anybody's mind.  All I am saying to people, if you are like me, who think you look good in black, there is nothing wrong with your taste.  Do some research outside of SF.  Most of the people think you are a crack pot for taking this view.  I do not think you are a crack pot.  I respect you opinion.  For the uniformed person they should know you opinion is a minority view on other style blogs and society in general.

post #38 of 52
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I have read these threads.  The view that black is only appropriate for funerals, if at that, and is not a formal colour is the view of a vocal minority here on this forum.  I am not here to change anybody's mind.  All I am saying to people, if you are like me, who think you look good in black, there is nothing wrong with your taste.  Do some research outside of SF.  Most of the people think you are a crack pot for taking this view.  I do not think you are a crack pot.  I respect you opinion.  For the uniformed person they should know you opinion is a minority view on other style blogs and society in general.

Would you consider the majority of Americans to be anything remotely approaching well dressed? Probably not, right? So what does it matter what the majority thinks, especially given its questionable sense of style?

(Btw, appealing to the majority is a logical fallacy that someone of your username shouldn't be making).
post #39 of 52
Where's the Hemlock?
post #40 of 52
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Would you consider the majority of Americans to be anything remotely approaching well dressed? Probably not, right? So what does it matter what the majority thinks, especially given its questionable sense of style?

(Btw, appealing to the majority is a logical fallacy that someone of your username shouldn't be making).

I see where you're trying to go (and you're right about not following the herd just because it's big), but I wouldn't consider the majority of people on SF to be remotely approaching well dressed either. IMO, some of the most popular people here aren't very well dressed. I'm sure that I could find more than enough well-dressed, black-suit-advocating people out there without much effort. There are probably some of them here who simply don't want to get into the arguments and have their intelligence questioned.

 

I don't know how "Socrates'" track record will look in a few months, but he's right about looking beyond this forum (and those that are recommended by the "vocal few")..."allegory of the cave."

post #41 of 52
got a new (or new for me) suit every Easter. I liked the ones the had one suit jacket, reversible vest, one pair of pants that matched one side of the vest and another pair that matched the other side of the vest.
post #42 of 52
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I have read these threads.  The view that black is only appropriate for funerals, if at that, and is not a formal colour is the view of a vocal minority here on this forum.  I am not here to change anybody's mind.  All I am saying to people, if you are like me, who think you look good in black, there is nothing wrong with your taste.  Do some research outside of SF.  Most of the people think you are a crack pot for taking this view.  I do not think you are a crack pot.  I respect you opinion.  For the uniformed person they should know you opinion is a minority view on other style blogs and society in general.

Chaire, Sokrates! I realize that English is not your native tongue. If I weren't so lazy, I'd try to download a Greek font and give discussing this in your native Attic a shot. Perhaps, as others have remarked, we could try giving the topic of the black suit a good Socratics elenchos.
post #43 of 52
Μεγάλη λόγια της σοφίας από τον Σωκράτη, ένα από την τριανδρία SF.
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Great words of wisdom from Socrates, one of the SF triumvirate.
post #44 of 52
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I don't know how "Socrates'" track record will look in a few months,...

It will look as good as yours, which isn't saying much.
post #45 of 52
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Originally Posted by socrates View Post


I have read these threads.  The view that black is only appropriate for funerals, if at that, and is not a formal colour is the view of a vocal minority here on this forum.  I am not here to change anybody's mind.  All I am saying to people, if you are like me, who think you look good in black, there is nothing wrong with your taste.  Do some research outside of SF.  Most of the people think you are a crack pot for taking this view.  I do not think you are a crack pot.  I respect you opinion.  For the uniformed person they should know you opinion is a minority view on other style blogs and society in general.

I think you are making a caricature of and misrepresenting parts of the argument against black suits. Black IS a formal color. I don't see people debating that. In fact, that is why some believe it should be reserved for formal attire. The people opposed to black suits are also not in the minority here and its rather disingenuous to suggest this; in fact, a substantial majority is opposed to black suits and has been since at least 2006 when I joined, a majority slightly eroded by the departure of some old timers and influx of new people.

I am sure that only a very small minority of people in society have any real substantive knowledge of menswear. People come to forums like this because they want to learn more about clothing than the average member of society.
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