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Men's Hats: A Discussion Thread, Questions, Opinions, Suggestions... - Page 6post #77 of 14654/12/13 at 4:47amQuote:Originally Posted by bourbonbasted
Serious question: I've always held that the only men who should wear formal hats today are those that were alive when their style and decorum were prevalent. Otherwise I feel like everyone ends up looking like they are either wearing a costume or are very affected.
I think there is a great deal of charm in an older man wearing a hat, but I feel that comes from years of knowing a society that wore hats at all times. They know how the hat should look, what looks compliment the accessory, etc. Younger guys almost always look like they found their grandfather's hat in an attic and found it a novelty.
I may be wrong here, but I've never seen a convincing argument to the contrary. Even guys like tibor, that clearly embrace the look fully, still don't sell me on the idea that it can be done well. It marks someone as eccentric rather than stylish or dashing, which goes directly against the decorum that it stands for.
You are wrong and the fact hats are coming back as seen in this thread proves it.post #78 of 14654/12/13 at 5:54amI only recently noted the creation of this thread. I wear hats in winter with formal overcoats as a matter of course, out of necessity (I am bald, and New York winters are cold), and out of a sense of style (the look of a man wearing a suit, a proper overcoat, and a baseball cap is just stupid - and knit caps, as practical as they are, look horrible on me).
Is the look "retro" - yes, undoubtedly.
Do I care? Not very much
Do I look good? I believe that I do.
Is it "costume-y"? I own several fedoras, none of which, I believe, are so outside of the realm of current menswear to look "costume-y", IMHO. I do own a Homburg, which even on its best days (worn with a dark grey Chesterfield topcoat) is costume-y. I accept this, as I believe that, as out-of-touch with current menswear as it may be, I still like it.
Not everyone's face is suited to wear a fedora or other "proper" hat, nor does everyone's general mien work with the look, but for those of us who can wear a hat, there is no better frame for one's face, and it gives one an extra dose of "presence".
FYI - For those of you who are interested, women very much like seeing men in hats - I've been complimented by women on this fact many times.post #79 of 14654/12/13 at 5:58ampost #80 of 14654/12/13 at 6:41amQuote:
The problem I see with using a spare chair is that someone might come up and sit down without looking down at it.
There's one guy who wears a freakin' baseball cap every day and all day to work here (this is inside a building). It seems to be part of his work costume and maybe he wears it when he goes home too. (Don't know him at all and he seems pretty weird anyway)
Another guy wears the Gatsby type hat all the time (usually a light grey one) but not inside- usually when he comes and goes. I used to wear one in the '70s because of Bruce Springsteen. My boss said I looked like Redford (I hadn't seen the movie at the time and kind of resented the comment cause I liked Springsteen). lol
I also saw another guy wear a hat that looked something like a cross between a cowboy hat and a fedora.
Edited by FillW - 4/12/13 at 8:20ampost #81 of 14654/12/13 at 6:54amQuote:
I don't think he means to insult you so don't let his comments bother you.
I think that most people let their own inhibitions stop them from wearing certain types of hats these days. Hence the negative comments...post #82 of 14654/12/13 at 7:10amThread Starterpost #83 of 14654/12/13 at 7:13amThread Starterpost #84 of 14654/12/13 at 7:28ampost #85 of 14654/12/13 at 7:41ampost #86 of 14654/12/13 at 7:51amQuote:
I knew from your post a few days ago that you would object to the word 'costumey' if you saw this thread.
It puzzles me why you are so sensitive about it. You have clearly stated your aim to dress in a manner not just influenced by but in direct parity to the style of 60 to 70 years ago. How is this not a costume, no matter how well you may hit the mark?
The other day you posted a picture of yourself in a perfectly executed formal morning rig, and when asked where you wore it, IIRC you replied 'breakfast'. That kind of outfit, while still seen at Royal Ascot, the Queen's garden parties and knighthood investitures, and the rare formal wedding, hasn't been worn to a breakfast diner in ... ever?
There was a bloke in my home town known as 'The Spectre' who was regularly seen in Victorian dress - frock coat, top hat, ruffled shirt with oversize bow tie, silver topped cane etc. like you, we'll executed but no one was in any doubt, least of all he, that this was costumey no matter how much he had enfolded his dress sense into his personal lifestyle. So you can rail against the word as much as you like but by any definition your clothing style is costumey. It's an adjective, and as far as I can tell, not used in a pejorative sense. You can whine about it or embrace it, but choosing the latter would suit you more.post #87 of 14654/12/13 at 7:59amThread StarterI never cared for hats, but my Dermatologist insisted that I use sunscreen and wear a hat. I regret not having done so as a younger man. I would have avoided having basal cells carved out of my scalp or pre-cancerous spots removed. According to my Dermo, most of these spots are a result of sun exposure in my early years.
Want to keep your face and scalp looking its best? Consider a hat.post #88 of 14654/12/13 at 8:18amQuote:
Jesus, slim, if that mild comment was "spitting on your soul" I'd hate to think about your reaction to an actual insult.
I think eventually you will lighten up on the details, keep the best aspects of what you wear and soften into a more lived in and natural approach to clothes.
Anyway, we're kind of screwing up PSG's worthwhile thread, so I'll step away and hope he makes it up to Paul's and see what they have to offer.
leftypost #89 of 14654/12/13 at 8:42amThread Starterpost #90 of 14654/12/13 at 8:43amThread Starter
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