Originally Posted by mack11211
The issue here is a soft, unlined collar, as opposed to something stiffer or starched.
There is a slight excess of material to achieve the roll; it moves around.
So the same collar design could look like 1 or 4 or 5 in the course of a day.
To chose one as best is like choosing the 'right' point in a dance.
Life is not a series of selfies.
But I think your premise is just false. I've had a number of different soft, buttondown collars. They do not change shape as much as others have suggested. The shape of the collar, its spread and length, the position of the buttons, etc., will exert a great deal of control over how its roll forms.
Anyway, you're essentially identifying 1, 4 and 5 as similar. I think that's a fair judgment. That doesn't change the fact that they are still different in certain ways, allowing you to pick the one most pleasing. I never said you had to hate all the others you don't vote for.
It seems you and some others are trying to pick a philosophical fight over what makes a buttondown collar appealing. That has nothing to do with this thread. The question is how you like your buttondown collars to look. If you have no particular preference, because you don't think the roll shape has anything to do with what makes a buttondown collar good, that's fine, but trying again and again to upend the basis of this discussion is tiring.