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Originally Posted by jstrath406 View Post

I actually wear my Acne Ace Stay Cash all the time, probably my most worn denim alongside JE. I will say they fit very similar at first, but JE stretches out much much more. Now that JE has just recently tapered the leg below the knee even further on the Cast 2 (just within the last few weeks) you may be just fine. Worst case is they stretch out and you pay $15ish to get them tapered.

Honestly the strategy of buying John Elliott denim as tight as you can button them (even just semi-comfortably, in some cases) works best. Coming from a guy who normally takes 29s or 30s and goes 28 for JE.
post #22052 of 25310
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Originally Posted by jstrath406 View Post

I actually wear my Acne Ace Stay Cash all the time, probably my most worn denim alongside JE. I will say they fit very similar at first, but JE stretches out much much more. Now that JE has just recently tapered the leg below the knee even further on the Cast 2 (just within the last few weeks) you may be just fine. Worst case is they stretch out and you pay $15ish to get them tapered.

How does this work btw?
I never owned Acnes before, I'm a 32 in APC Petit Standard but a true 34 waist with a measuring tape.
What would that be equivalent to JE?
I know APCs are in vanity sizing so would that make me 34 in Acne Aces? and 34 in JE Casts 2s?
Don't want them to stretch out too much.
post #22053 of 25310
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How does this work btw?
I never owned Acnes before, I'm a 32 in APC Petit Standard but a true 34 waist with a measuring tape.
What would that be equivalent to JE?
I know APCs are in vanity sizing so would that make me 34 in Acne Aces? and 34 in JE Casts 2s?
Don't want them to stretch out too much.


I take a 31 in APC (Petit Standard).  31 in JE.  31 in Acne Ace.

 

If you've never tried JE or Acne before - I would stick with your APC sizing and work your way from there.

post #22054 of 25310
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Originally Posted by GBlue View Post


How does this work btw?
I never owned Acnes before, I'm a 32 in APC Petit Standard but a true 34 waist with a measuring tape.
What would that be equivalent to JE?
I know APCs are in vanity sizing so would that make me 34 in Acne Aces? and 34 in JE Casts 2s?
Don't want them to stretch out too much.

You can get actual measurements for all these jeans on JE, SSENSE, Mr. Porter, etc.  If the APC fit well, just find the size with the same measurements on one of those sites and you should be good.

post #22055 of 25310
Is it me or do those gap escos look like washed black? Really have my doubts that the items will fit that well unfortunately.
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The Gap stuff looks like garbage.  Anyone with any semblance of a nice JE collection will probably stay far away... unless looking for some beaters

post #22057 of 25310
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Originally Posted by mcking View Post
 

 

2 totally different statements. I was quoting you regarding not being able to find a quality jacket for $600. 

 

If you haven't looked into Schott for the past decade, give it another look. They put out really nice updated/modern silhouette. Barney's has the best sellection. 

 

 

 

I wasn't referring to a nice quality jacket for $595, rather a nice quality JE rider for $595.  I just referred to the JE rider as a rider, but should have been more clear.

post #22058 of 25310
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Originally Posted by leFLOPjames View Post
 

The Gap stuff looks like garbage.  Anyone with any semblance of a nice JE collection will probably stay far away... unless looking for some beaters

Couldn't agree more.  I don't understand why designers keep pumping out all these big box / specialty store lines and collaborations.  It's not like they're having trouble selling their mainline collections, and if they are, make them better, not cheap versions that inevitably degrade the brand over time.

 

People used to think of designers like Vera Wang for high end wedding gowns.  Now I think of BS Kohls collection of cheap knit tops.

post #22059 of 25310
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Couldn't agree more.  I don't understand why designers keep pumping out all these big box / specialty store lines and collaborations.  It's not like they're having trouble selling their mainline collections, and if they are, make them better, not cheap versions that inevitably degrade the brand over time.

People used to think of designers like Vera Wang for high end wedding gowns.  Now I think of BS Kohls collection of cheap knit tops.
I see your point, but this is an "honor" with a stipulation that the items have to be sold in gap.
Also brings more brand awareness to the general public, not just people that read hypebeast and fashion blogs. This will result in future customers that want to upgrade to the legit items. It's not like this is going to be an ongoing collab where JE is sold in gap forever. From a new customer stand point it is probably a good deal for them, I'm sure their website/IG/twitter are going to get more hits/likes after this.

Other than the gap collabs, JE has really only collabed with brands that carry them already, examples being bergdorf and Roden grey, and they were good pieces.

So yeah quality may take a hit on this collab and the previous gap collab, but for the most part I think the JE collabs have been thoughtful. And who doesn't want a beater rider?
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Is it just me or anyone else confused with JE pricing? The Sashiko extended classic crew came out today at $198 and I was expecting it to be more expensive than the cropped Sashiko priced at $298.  However, it's $100 cheaper than the cropped even though its the extended version.  I guess the cropped has more "stitch pattern" but does that justify a $100 difference?! 

I was never going to buy either of the tees because its not my style but I'm still confused about it. Did anyone actually pick up that $300 tee? lol

post #22061 of 25310
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Originally Posted by nsubrmnn View Post


I see your point, but this is an "honor" with a stipulation that the items have to be sold in gap.
Also brings more brand awareness to the general public, not just people that read hypebeast and fashion blogs. This will result in future customers that want to upgrade to the legit items. It's not like this is going to be an ongoing collab where JE is sold in gap forever. From a new customer stand point it is probably a good deal for them, I'm sure their website/IG/twitter are going to get more hits/likes after this.

Other than the gap collabs, JE has really only collabed with brands that carry them already, examples being bergdorf and Roden grey, and they were good pieces.

So yeah quality may take a hit on this collab and the previous gap collab, but for the most part I think the JE collabs have been thoughtful. And who doesn't want a beater rider?

Fair points - I'm not specifically calling out JE or anything, just the concept in general.  But, in JEs case, many of their items sell out in minutes regardless of having a new stream of customers.  And I feel like it would be quite a jump from anyone casually shopping a GAP collaboration to then decide that they are in the market for $200 - $300 hoodies.  Maybe they'll like the brand, but simply be priced out.

 

And maybe I'm in the minority here, but the beater concept doesn't really resonate with me for most items.  It's not like I'm wearing a t-shirt delicately and taking great care of it at $64 versus rolling around in the dirt in it for $35.  Similarly, a rider should be worn anyways.  Why not wear the expensive, well made one for your everyday life just as you would a cheaper "beater"?  I would imagine most of us don't wear any of these items hard enough to need a beater version.

post #22062 of 25310
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Originally Posted by dmill View Post
 

Is it just me or anyone else confused with JE pricing? The Sashiko extended classic crew came out today at $198 and I was expecting it to be more expensive than the cropped Sashiko priced at $298.  However, it's $100 cheaper than the cropped even though its the extended version.  I guess the cropped has more "stitch pattern" but does that justify a $100 difference?! 

I was never going to buy either of the tees because its not my style but I'm still confused about it. Did anyone actually pick up that $300 tee? lol

It's because there is less of the stitching. On the first tee there was another large panel of the sashiko stitching.

 

I'm passing on both - don't like the look of it. Cool idea though I suppose.!

post #22063 of 25310
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Originally Posted by dmill View Post
 

Is it just me or anyone else confused with JE pricing? The Sashiko extended classic crew came out today at $198 and I was expecting it to be more expensive than the cropped Sashiko priced at $298.  However, it's $100 cheaper than the cropped even though its the extended version.  I guess the cropped has more "stitch pattern" but does that justify a $100 difference?! 

I was never going to buy either of the tees because its not my style but I'm still confused about it. Did anyone actually pick up that $300 tee? lol

Pricing seems a little arbitrary outside of the product cost (which likely has strong margins direct to consumer).  Definitely don't think the extra stitching would cost $100 more, but they probably expected better sales from the cropped version and when they didn't come through, adjusted on the fly for this version.

post #22064 of 25310
If the white denim that John has on in the Gap pic is part of the collection then I'm in for those. I've been wanting some white jeans, but not down to pay $300+ for the stretch Micas since they'll inevitably get dirty quickly.
post #22065 of 25310
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Originally Posted by nsubrmnn View Post


I see your point, but this is an "honor" with a stipulation that the items have to be sold in gap.
Also brings more brand awareness to the general public, not just people that read hypebeast and fashion blogs. This will result in future customers that want to upgrade to the legit items. It's not like this is going to be an ongoing collab where JE is sold in gap forever. From a new customer stand point it is probably a good deal for them, I'm sure their website/IG/twitter are going to get more hits/likes after this.

Other than the gap collabs, JE has really only collabed with brands that carry them already, examples being bergdorf and Roden grey, and they were good pieces.

So yeah quality may take a hit on this collab and the previous gap collab, but for the most part I think the JE collabs have been thoughtful. And who doesn't want a beater rider?

I don't want one... and also, being a longtime massive JE fan with a ton of pieces - I don't like the idea. Watering down the JE brand with some Gap garbage.  JE doesn't even want to be mainstream as he has stated before, and stuff already sells out quickly bc of their limited production so I'm not sure of the intent of this drop... Anyways, to each their own, and I'm not hating on people who buy the stuff. I understand that some people can't afford it so this will be easier for them to cop.  Just not for me and I don't like the idea.

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