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post #16 of 47
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Don't people here try to define others as "sartorial standards" all of the time? What's the difference between that and what you described?...the fact that you don't agree with it? It sounds like hypocrisy to me.

Yes, I'm sure it does happen here all the time, but wouldnt you need to give me a specific example in order to see the difference between these other examples of sartorial "standards" and a Timberlake versus Grant comparison?

In this instance, the writer is describing person (a) Timberlake, as an adult who is dressed by other adults. He then compares Timberlake to person (b) Cary Grant, who the writer describes as someone that took years to develop his own sense of style. The writer also then takes the time to point out that many people erroneously thought that Grant was dressed by costume departments, but actually dressed himself. Whereas Timberlake is "custumed" out by Tom Ford and any other designer who takes the job.

These descriptions seem to be completely at odds with one another, yet the gist of the article seems to be that Timberlake is following in Grant's footsteps somehow.
post #17 of 47
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pics of you wearing?

I'm Canadian - draw your own conclusions
post #18 of 47
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Yes, I'm sure it does happen here all the time, but wouldnt you need to give me a specific example in order to see the difference between these other examples of sartorial "standards" and a Timberlake versus Grant comparison?

In this instance, the writer is describing person (a) Timberlake, as an adult who is dressed by other adults. He then compares Timberlake to person (b) Cary Grant, who the writer describes as someone that took years to develop his own sense of style. The writer also then takes the time to point out that many people erroneously thought that Grant was dressed by costume departments, but actually dressed himself. Whereas Timberlake is "custumed" out by Tom Ford and any other designer who takes the job.

These descriptions seem to be completely at odds with one another, yet the gist of the article seems to be that Timberlake is following in Grant's footsteps somehow.

If you didn't have standards in mind, the Timberlake vs. Grant comparison wouldn't rub you the wrong way. Stop dancing in circles.

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I'm Canadian - draw your own conclusions

What does that have to do with it? lol8[1].gif

post #20 of 47
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What does that have to do with it? lol8%5B1%5D.gif

Explaining the joke always cheapens it. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #21 of 47
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If you didn't have standards in mind, the Timberlake vs. Grant comparison wouldn't rub you the wrong way. Stop dancing in circles.

The standard in mind would be the one set by the author - Cary Grant. He is comparing Timberlake to Grant, apparently based on nothing more than the fact that they both wore a suit and tie once.
post #22 of 47
The GQ editor guy is nails on a chalkboard to me. There's a disconnect between his reverence for Cary Grant, etc., and the junk he and his magazine put out.

For instance, I was just at the grocery store and saw this on the rack:
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-Three-sizes-too-small pants
-Cropped hems
-Shiny black blazer
-Patent leather shoes in a non formal setting


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post #23 of 47
"broad-shouldered"

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post #24 of 47
it seems to me there is an integrity issue with the popular men's style press. On the one hand, they make note of some past distinguished dressers but they are hostage to the brands that either currently pay their advertising or might in the future. They name drop Savile Row but haven't recently had a Huntsman or Poole or Richard Anderson focused style spread. I think this may partly explain why fashion writers of today focus so much on brands. They are not in the business of educating men on what to wear - they are in the business of selling advertising. In the old Apparel Arts/Esquire days - those roles overlapped.

It makes perfect sense in this modern era for writers to single out recognizable people who wear the brands with a bit of style. These are the new style icons to them. Timberlake in Ford, Gosling in Gucci, every other actor in Prada.

I do agree though that for someone aspiring to build a sense of personal style based on classical menswear, someone who simply cloaks themselves in a strong brand may not be an ideal role model.
post #25 of 47
This whole she-bang is marketing bullcrap. Justin Timberlake feeding off Tom Ford, and vice versa. This whole tiresome blown-out-of-proportion commercialisation and blatant endorsement of J. Timberlake in Tom Ford has gone shitwards when I first heard about his inspired album 'Suit & Tie'. The celebrated attempt to announce to the whole world that JT has come to sartorial sense through this album is a laughable joke. And to compare JT to Cary Grant? This is a far cry and what a blasphemy for comparison. JT will be forever be that curled hair voice-squeaking Mickey Mouse Club dude that prances around like he is the next best thing.
post #26 of 47
Sure, Justin Timberlake deserves some credit for the "openness and willingness" to try different things sartorially. Cary Grant, however, he is not.
post #27 of 47
Good or bad, JTbdid openly embrace the concept of suit and tie. And he did look good in that music video
post #28 of 47
I get all the hate, but honestly, anything that inspires people to dress better is a good thing. He might not be a Cary Grant right, but he is bringing interest in classic wear back...
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I get all the hate, but honestly, anything that inspires people to dress better is a good thing. He might not be a Cary Grant right, but he is bringing interest in classic wear back...

I may need some of whatever is in your cup tonight to agree with this.
post #30 of 47
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I get all the hate, but honestly, anything that inspires people to dress better is a good thing. He might not be a Cary Grant right, but he is bringing interest in classic wear back...

Much like Thomas Kinkade inspired many to pursue art...

 

I guess it depends how far the inspiration takes them. If it is beyond superficial, then yeah, it's a good thing. Otherwise, it's annoying to those who, whether they care to admit it or not, have some pride in the combination of being recognized as well dressed and being reasonably cognizant of what "well dressed" entails.

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