Thank you for the input. The coat is shorter than a traditional trench, probably coming to being above the knee be 5 inches. I ventured into Burberry, and found that the traditional mid-length London line, as well as the Prorsum line, disappointingly all came up much shorter, to around the mid-thigh, making them almost feminine. I did however, notice that Burberry coats contain an extra layer of material over the shoulders to protect the wearer from the elements, rings to prevent the belt from slipping off, and I've read many good things about the repair and customer service. It seems like MMM isn't mentioned much in terms of quality(either good or bad) on the forum. In terms of Burberry, I liked this coat the best, but on my search, it seems hard to find a quality, stylish trench that hangs just above the knee.