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Originally Posted by jebarne View Post

I will tell you that I was at a wedding reception a couple weeks ago in SLC and was speaking to a young man who was very thin, wearing an impeccably tailored suit. sleeve length, suit details, pants, etc were perfect. Turns out it was a B&R. The fit could not have been more perfect.

My brother works in Utah and I'm trying to get him to try B&R on a suit.

Its rather easy to fit a thin man. Always harder to fit and make a big man look good.
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Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post

errrr.... couple things to my eye. Yes, I know you're avoiding super wide lapels because you're not gangster, but these ones seem rather skimpy, and low gorge too. See how big the gap between lapel and chest pocket is? And second, something about the combo of button placement (too low? too close together?) with tight waist, and maybe also the low gorge, seems to be giving you visual hip weight, like I'm seeing a figure 8 shape here... something looks off at the waist+hips area, particularly on the right side (in the pic), could it be the body angle to the camera?. Oh, and that's a rather full break on those trousers non? lastly, consider making cuffs slightly bigger. Anyway, just my 2cents

+1. In addition, button placement looks way off, likely caused by coat being too long. Lapel looks and actually is very skinny relative to frame.

Pants fit is rather OTR
post #77 of 141
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I cross posted this on WAYWRN thread. Here's the critiques from that thread:

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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Kai, I think this would benefit from more substantial lapels and a bit more wrap on the DB.

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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

+1

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Originally Posted by clapeyron View Post


I'm not sure the 4x2 look is working with your frame Kai. And even though you mentioned that you are trying to avoid the cartoon mobster look, a wider lapel would suit you better on a double breasted jacket like this. If it were single breasted the lapel width would be okay in my opinion.

I don't know if that's an option with beckett and robb, but I'd move the pocketsquare pocket a little bit further away from your armpit.

Everything else, shoes, tie and shirt looks great, though.

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Originally Posted by MrDaniels View Post

Kai, I have seen a lot of great individual pieces and complete fits from you and I usually appreciate your style and respect the attention you pay to your clothing, but this is just so wrong. I am really surprised that you could not see how unflattering this cut is for your frame, and whatever tailor worked on this with you should be ashamed. If there were a Tailor's Guild, your tailor would be brought before a disciplinary committee and get his license suspended. I could see how you could really make a great impression in a correctly cut and fitted double-breasted suit with (as others have said) a wider lapel, but oh boy this is not it. If there was a suit salesman involved as well, he should never be trusted again. I don't mean to be overly harsh or glib, but you spend a lot of money on your clothing and deserve to hear the truth.
post #78 of 141
Comparing the two, I think the wider lapels look good. If you want to keep it modern then no bellied/curved lapels, hard and straight. As mentioned, see how there's a bit of overlap with the chest pocket. I think the new suit is missing that through a combo of pocket too far over (and low?) and narrow lapels. I could be wrong but I always throught you could create a longer torso line by having higher gorge and pocket with straight cut lapels and lower button stance and lower pockets with no ticket and shorter jacket (all within reason). The new suit has slimmer arms and pants, which is also less boxy, so that's good. Lastly, basides that it may just be a bit to do with lighting and more extreme camera angle (new suit pic taken on bigger hill?), clearly the coat 'looks' too long (see how it covers the whole front rise so it looks like a blouse), I think the area under the chest is taken in too far so it's giving that figure 8. Again, take it with a grain of salt. I own 2 suits, have never had MTM/bespoke done and am currently at home in a bathrobe, but I've been on the site for years and seen thousands of WAYW and I think there's just an overall sense of proportion and all that which I have an opinion on. The above might be a starting point.
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post #79 of 141
Pretty sure a lot people already mentioned, but anyway my take is on your new DB is
1. larger lapel
2. shorter jacket
3. button points higher in a 6x2 configuration
post #80 of 141
It will be interesting to see how they handle this issue; you're clearly a good customer and a good house would correct or remake the coat. Having said that the B&R prices are a bit lower than normal so I wonder how much wiggle room they have.
post #81 of 141
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Originally Posted by Kai View Post

One of the 4 suits I just picked up:



That is an unusual pocket arrangement. What is it - phone pocket with flap and??
post #82 of 141
phone, sunglasses, pen?
post #83 of 141
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Blackhood View Post

It will be interesting to see how they handle this issue; you're clearly a good customer and a good house would correct or remake the coat. Having said that the B&R prices are a bit lower than normal so I wonder how much wiggle room they have.


Beckett & Robb works with an excellent local tailor. She's much more skilled than a typical alterations tailor. My guess is that she can do something to make it better.

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That is an unusual pocket arrangement. What is it - phone pocket with flap and??

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Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post

phone, sunglasses, pen?


I have no idea what all these pockets are for. The jacket just came that way. I'm sure I can figure out something to put in them.
post #84 of 141
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post


Its rather easy to fit a thin man. Always harder to fit and make a big man look good.
+1. In addition, button placement looks way off, likely caused by coat being too long. Lapel looks and actually is very skinny relative to frame.

Pants fit is rather OTR


As a former (and some would argue current) big guy, believe me, I know.

post #85 of 141
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Originally Posted by Kai View Post

Beckett & Robb works with an excellent local tailor. She's much more skilled than a typical alterations tailor. My guess is that she can do something to make it better.

I have no idea what all these pockets are for. The jacket just came that way. I'm sure I can figure out something to put in them.


How very odd, I've seen nothing like that before even when someone ahs made special requests of the tailor. Are all your suits from them like this?.
post #86 of 141
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Originally Posted by Kai View Post

Beckett & Robb works with an excellent local tailor. She's much more skilled than a typical alterations tailor. My guess is that she can do something to make it better.

I have no idea what all these pockets are for. The jacket just came that way. I'm sure I can figure out something to put in them.

Kai, this is Jason typing here. First, the inside left pockets are for a smart phone, business cards, and pen. The smartphone pocket is shallow and has the flap to prevent the phone from falling out when you bend over. As you know, but for the benefit of other SF members, the inside right pocket is a larger traditional pocket.
Second, this is the first I've personally seen of you in your new DB. I appreciate the feedback you've received here. Let us know what you'd like us to do, if anything. I agree with some of the feedback. Ultimately we just want you to be happy, so let us know.
post #87 of 141
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Originally Posted by beckettrobb View Post

Kai, this is Jason typing here. First, the inside left pockets are for a smart phone, business cards, and pen. The smartphone pocket is shallow and has the flap to prevent the phone from falling out when you bend over. As you know, but for the benefit of other SF members, the inside right pocket is a larger traditional pocket.
Second, this is the first I've personally seen of you in your new DB. I appreciate the feedback you've received here. Let us know what you'd like us to do, if anything. I agree with some of the feedback. Ultimately we just want you to be happy, so let us know.


Do you not have the ticket pockets inside the coat then in normal configuration?
post #88 of 141
Thread Starter 
Spoke with the Becket & Robb folks today.

They're going to remake the double breasted jacket.

Really nice to see this level of customer service and pride in their product.

The two regular single breasted 3-piece suits I got from them are killer. However, it's 100 degrees here, and they're made from heavy fabrics, so I haven't really worn them yet.
post #89 of 141

I took advantage of the Bay Bridge closure's effect on downtown traffic (namely, that there isn't much, relative to what downtown SF is usually like), to swing by B&R after work and put in an order for a sportcoat & vest I've been thinking about for a while. It's going to be an impatient 6-7 weeks while they make it!

post #90 of 141
Thread Starter 
I ordered a camel hair sport coat.

Agree that it will be a long wait.
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