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post #31 of 55
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Originally Posted by Garasaki View Post

Well perhaps I havent' lived yet, and your post had me second guessing so google helped me out with the following perspective on Nantucket Red:
Hitler: Let's have the Waffen SS wear Nantucket red pants for their uniform! That would look snappy!
Mr Hugo Boss: Mein Fuhrer, while that clearly conveys an asshole vibe, it is hardly intimidating. I recommend sticking with grey, black or olive.
Hitler: Ja, you're right. Can I still use it for the draperies in my bunker?

Don't get me wrong, I thought your 10 commandments were good, and your basic wardrobe list was just under "ok", but I'm going to reserve "nantucket red pants" for the "things to buy in the days before committing suicide" list.

Alright, I'll ask you a question. How much tan, khaki, grey or navy pants can you wear before tiring of the tedium? After these essential colours, what would be the colour for pants that you would wear for fun and live another day?
post #32 of 55
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Originally Posted by Man Of Lint View Post


Alright, I'll ask you a question. How much tan, khaki, grey or navy pants can you wear before tiring of the tedium? After these essential colours, what would be the colour for pants that you would wear for fun and live another day?

 

Point taken, and I don't think anything resembling red would be my next choice, which is neither here nor there, but I have to question the presence of those pants for a guy who just graduated college and is asking "how do I start assembling a stylish wardrobe"?

 

I'm at the same-ish wardrobe place as the OP.  Although I didn't just graduate college.  I can say I've never worn a pair of gray (grey?) pants in my life.  Yet.  It is high on my "to buy" list.  I've barely even worn navy.  Tan, Khaki, and jeans have been my daily fare - which I'm trying to expand.  Point being, if I represent the average person, the answer to your question:

 

How much tan, khaki, grey or navy pants can you wear before tiring of the tedium?

 

is:  a whole hellova lot.

post #33 of 55

Red can work for men with a darker complexion- or at least It's a bad choice for light complected guys like me. 

There is a thread here with some pictures of guys in red pants:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/309785/waywrn-peacock-edition

post #34 of 55
Self-importance is involved, by image consultants and others.

It would be nice if a "Please provide specifics such as..." block of text popped up when a person tries to start a thread with a few keywords such as "help" and newbie." In lieu of that, could members at least avoid recommending buying used clothing, ordering important items without trying on first, 2-for-ones, and non-standard furnishings (e.g., pocket squares) to typical beginners? On other clothing forums, the advice to new people is better; and without interesting threads by new people and integration of some new members, it's boring.
post #35 of 55
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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant View Post

Self-importance is involved, by image consultants and others.

It would be nice if a "Please provide specifics such as..." block of text popped up when a person tries to start a thread with a few keywords such as "help" and newbie." In lieu of that, could members at least avoid recommending buying used clothing, ordering important items without trying on first, 2-for-ones, and non-standard furnishings (e.g., pocket squares) to typical beginners? On other clothing forums, the advice to new people is better; and without interesting threads by new people and integration of some new members, it's boring.

As far as I can tell, your advice in this thread has been (1) a request for more information which is wise, (2) pointing out that OP needs cold weather gear in Chicago and (3) that lists are not useful / pocket squares and vests are flashy (which I personally think is dubious advice at best). I don't think you should complain about the quality of advice given in this particularly thread when you haven't given much of any yourself.

Look, it would be great if every new poster provided the details useful for more experienced members to give helpful replies. They don't, generally did not in the past, and never will do so regularly. Sometimes you get helpful follow-up data, sometimes you don't. My instinct (and I think the instinct of many other posters) is to try to be helpful to the extent we can and work with what we have. I think that's far more useful than ignoring the OP until you get every detail you want.
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post #38 of 55
It was those items being "flashy" on young people. Anyway, the point is that blind advice as described in #34 is unhelpful and either drives new people away or encourages them to waste their money. It does not encourage actual dialogue in which more details about the situation might be shared. That kind of information often is provided on other sites, indicating that the problem probably is how regulars react to newbies.

Also, re thrift ships from an earlier post, good place to explore colors, fabrics, etc., but learning objectively good taste and fit isn't happening there and thrift shop clothing usually shouldn't be for important uses (such as the office).
post #39 of 55
If you're going to keep pushing this claim, the least you can do is document it. What is an example of a website or thread where the advice you think should be given was given on another website? It's hard to even discuss this unless you give an example of a helpful post.

As for white linen pocket squares being flashy on young people, I've worn them since I was 18 and never had an issue. I think a jacket without one looks worse 99% of the time and someone might have an issue with a young person wearing one 1% of the time at most. I see no sense in looking worse 99% of the time to avoid a situation where 1% of people will be offended or think me flashy. Hell, the percentage of people who will think me sloppy for not having one is probably at least as high.
post #40 of 55
(double-posting especially bad today censored.gif)
post #41 of 55
For example, Andy's site, though someone probably wouldn't start a thread there about clothing for nightclubs.

It's much more than 1% where a pocket square on a young person gets a negative reaction. Most people keep unkind thoughts to themselves, but even so this site has had stories about squares being grabbed by others in clubs. Only a ballsy young person can easily 'rock' the pocket square.
post #42 of 55
Garasaki,
as you are not ready for the reds, some other options would be Forest Green, Olive Drab, Taupe, Rust, Mustard. They are 'safe' colours you may want to explore in casual pants when you are ready. Also, textures can provide some boredom relief. A few suggestions: Twill, Micro Corduroy, Wale Cord, Whipcord, Linen, Moleskin, Hemp, etc. Patterns can be fun too. Try Windowpane at least once in your life. Hope this helps.
post #43 of 55
Just read the stuff on fit, suit details and colors here and ignore what's "classic" or "proper" for now.

Without knowing what you look like (are you thin, athletic, overweight, tall, short etc) it's hard to recommend anything specific but I'd go with a good looking pair of brown or tan shoes (oxfords - learn the stylings so you don't end up with square toed monstrosities) and a sportcoat in some shade of blue ranging from navy to light blue if you're feeling bold.

As current fashion favors very high gorge and buttoning point, it might be a better idea to check out your local thrift stores first. You might find something that looks cool but has a more classic construction, not to mention at a much friendlier price. Find one that fits well in the shoulders and decently elsewhere and then take it to a tailor to get sleeves the right length and if needed waist taken in.

As you're still under 30, going to a night club in a full blown suit can be a bit over dressed, hence just the sportcoat. Of course if you have the right attitude and confidence you can pull it off.
post #44 of 55
Thread Starter 

Thank you to everyone that contributed here. I really appreciate your help and suggestions.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post



start by not uttering these phrases anymore. the clothes will come


(On that note.....is this guy serious?)

post #45 of 55
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Originally Posted by Berko1se View Post

Thank you to everyone that contributed here. I really appreciate your help and suggestions.





(On that note.....is this guy serious?)

I'm absolutely serious. Proper use of the English language is more important than the clothes you wear.
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