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post #46 of 70
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Originally Posted by crimsonstained7 View Post

Archibald, I know that they're not the best, but there's no need to continue to provide no help at all, when I'm getting my stuff free, and didn't read ask for comment on what he commented on. I'll definitely worry more about quality when I'm buying at a price, but quality doesn't matter when it's free, in my mind.

 


I think quality should always matter but I'm going to go against the grain here and say that a free suit is always good quality for the price. The emphasis my fellow forum members are trying to show should be that you need to look for the highest quality you can, which can be hard to discern at MW. Like others have said you'll be getting a fused suit with plastic buttons at that price, there's almost no chance of anything else. So really you need to look for the best full wool suit you can find and then make sure that the shoulders fit with your natural shoulder line as opposed to hang over the edge.

 

If you can do both of those, and get one in a staple color like grey or navy you'll be doing just fine. It will be more than a suit for a "pinch," It can certainly be your go to suit throughout college. More than half of what makes a suit look good or not good is fit and halfway decent cloth. To the average eye you'll be dressed to kill in a fused MW suit if it fits right.

 

Don't take the harsh tone around here personally, some people tend to forget that not everything can be Loro Piana. If you need to buy at retail prices in the future don't return to MW, but if you get it for free then rock the hell out of it.

 

And FYI, there is truth to the fact that you can find a better suit at Goodwill for $10... but it takes time, patience and that's $10 more expensive than the one you're getting! Go forth and question no more.

post #47 of 70

I'll add this:  I like stripes on suits.  However, despite my preference for them, I also realize that solid navy is a must.  It is appropriate for day, night, business, entertainment.  Just about any shirt will go with it, whether solid, striped, checked, toothed, or any other pattern.  While I like a striped suit and a striped shirt, the stripes have to complement each other and sometimes you don't have the time or appropriate shirt for that.  Same with ties.  Solid navy suit makes your life easy and as a first suit it is ideal.

post #48 of 70
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Originally Posted by crimsonstained7 View Post

Archibald, I know that they're not the best, but there's no need to continue to provide no help at all, when I'm getting my stuff free, and didn't read ask for comment on what he commented on. I'll definitely worry more about quality when I'm buying at a price, but quality doesn't matter when it's free, in my mind.

To clarify, the comments being made have less to do with the quality of KC as a brand, and more to do with their appropriateness with a suit - much less a tuxedo. As I said earlier, if they are basic oxfords, they can tide you over if they are in good shape. It's just that the brand name evokes images of other things here.
post #49 of 70
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Originally Posted by cataan View Post

I'll add this:  I like stripes on suits.  However, despite my preference for them, I also realize that solid navy is a must.  It is appropriate for day, night, business, entertainment.  Just about any shirt will go with it, whether solid, striped, checked, toothed, or any other pattern.  While I like a striped suit and a striped shirt, the stripes have to complement each other and sometimes you don't have the time or appropriate shirt for that.  Same with ties.  Solid navy suit makes your life easy and as a first suit it is ideal.

I prefer solid grey, but that may be because I like grey more than navy. I really don't think you can go wrong with either.
post #50 of 70
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Originally Posted by crimsonstained7 View Post

Archibald, I know that they're not the best, but there's no need to continue to provide no help at all, when I'm getting my stuff free, and didn't read ask for comment on what he commented on. I'll definitely worry more about quality when I'm buying at a price, but quality doesn't matter when it's free, in my mind.

 

It's free, so it's a fine value, but if you're going to be seen in public in it, then I think that quality always matters. If you're going to say things like that and then get upset when people shoot you down, then maybe you should spend a little more time lurking rather than posting.

post #51 of 70
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Originally Posted by VinnyMac View Post

 

It's free, so it's a fine value, but if you're going to be seen in public in it, then I think that quality always matters. If you're going to say things like that and then get upset when people shoot you down, then maybe you should spend a little more time lurking rather than posting.


+1

 

 

post #52 of 70
Easily my best thread of the day.
post #53 of 70
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Originally Posted by jgold47 View Post

The biggest issue is the fit. These guys like to stick you in the biggest baggiest suit possible. Whatever they say you are in size, go down one! Otherwise a cheap suit with good tailoring can be just as good looking as an expensive suit with poor tailoring.

 Yeah, the people they have working at most of these places act like they just came from the unemployment line so they won't be any help in getting you into a nice fitting suit.

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Originally Posted by crimsonstained7 View Post

Archibald, I know that they're not the best, but there's no need to continue to provide no help at all, when I'm getting my stuff free, and didn't read ask for comment on what he commented on. I'll definitely worry more about quality when I'm buying at a price, but quality doesn't matter when it's free, in my mind.

 Even though it may be free you still should be concerned about the quality of whatever suit you end up with. Don't expect the salesmen to be any help at all since they won't be making any money off the sale.

post #54 of 70
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Originally Posted by Balfour View Post


+1

 

 

I don't know who Acrid Sheep is, but this is comedic gold. I'd like to know what happens when one graduates from noobdom.

post #55 of 70

This sucks. 

 

Just get a crappy free blue suit.  it doesn't matter.  You're 17.  You will outgrow it in a few years. 

post #56 of 70
Thread Starter 
VinnyMac, I meant the quality as compared to what you would all recommend. What percentage of the population will think "That looks horrible," if I'm wearing a well-tailored but not great quality suit?

And as to getting upset, I only got upset at quadcammer providing zero help, and others commenting on something that was mostly a passing comment (my tux) when the question was about a suit.

Plus, I clearly explained that it was a free suit, which some people decided to ignore and simply say MW quality is horrible, when I explained perfectly well that this would be plenty suitable for me (free suit for coege freshman).

I lurked long enough to point out WHY MW, and acknowledge it's not perfect, but it's a good opportunity. I don't appreciate being told not to ask a question. Shouldn't people ask if they don't know?
post #57 of 70
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Originally Posted by crimsonstained7 View Post

And as to getting upset, I only got upset at quadcammer providing zero help, and others commenting on something that was mostly a passing comment (my tux) when the question was about a suit.

In general on here, if you post something that attracts attention even if not directly asking a question about it, you will get comments on it. Your tuxedo comment attracted attention and received comments accordingly. That's how it works and most of the comments were trying to be helpful. You can either (a) not post superfluous information that may attract comments or (b) listen to feedback provided by others and try to learn more from it, which is what most of us are on here to do.
post #58 of 70
Thread Starter 

I get that, but most of it wasn't constructive. It was *facepalm* or, "for the love of god don't" or other things that simply said, don't do that. I still don't know why that would be bad, because no one explained it. I guess the problem was that no one was explaining, just commenting to comment.

post #59 of 70

Who cares if the majority of commentary was not constructive. You received the only constructive commentary you needed:

 

"Get a solid navy or charcoal suit. Get the free suit that fits you the best. Brand doesn't matter because the suits available to you are all fused and roughly of the same quality."

 

That's pretty useful information. No one can help you anymore. You just have to go to your MW and try on the solid navy and charcoal suits that are available and choose the one that offers the best fit.

 

This thread has officially been "asked and answered." May it now sink to page 1000 and never re-emerge.

post #60 of 70

crimsonstained: "What percentage of the population will think "That looks horrible," if I'm wearing a well-tailored but not great quality suit?"

 

Very few. Don't sweat it, really. As long as it's 100% wool (or, honestly...94% wool and 6% polyester would be fine, though I have no idea why they'd make one that way) and fits - and you get it pressed once in a while - you'll be doing fine. You can get 100% wool suits for under a hundred bucks at Ross, it's not a high bar to get over, so you will be able to find something perfectly passable at MW. This is a site for complete nerds, their judgement of what's 'barely acceptable' is not the same as that of the general population =)

 

On the tuxedo thing, and I appreciate you weren't really looking for comments, but to try and explain it briefly...well, a proper classic tuxedo works exactly because it's 'boring': two colours in a very finely balanced contrast. If you wear a tuxedo and then wear a black shirt you destroy the effect of the contrast between black jacket/pants and white shirt; you're now just a giant slab of black. It's not a hideous look, but it's pretty hard to argue that it's not worse than black/white. Coloured ties are difficult to do well for the same reason: you're messing with the simple monochromatic balance.

 

It's hard  to explain, but there's something about the black shirt / white tie combination - and it's not that 'different', C-list actors regularly show up to the Oscars in it and always look awful - that just looks really tacky. Someone else may have the words/expertise to explain it, but all I can say is...it doesn't look good. It just really doesn't.

 

The funny thing about saying "I'll wear a striped jacket / black shirt / colored tie / chicken feet / whatever and look different!" is that everyone does it. Probably the best way to stand out at a high school prom is to wear an absolutely classic tuxedo, because the chances are quite high it's the one thing no-one else will be wearing. =)

 

Someone else linked to the Black Tie Guide, and it's really worth reading; there's a lot of 'editorial' in there with some pretty good writing about why a proper tuxedo looks good and why it's so hard to twiddle with it and make it better. The editor has a very...strict...approach - if I was feeling mean I'd say he's a snob, but I'm not and he's awesome so I won't say that, but  you get the idea - but it's definitely worth reading and respecting what he has to say.

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