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post #16 of 23

Avoid Oliver Sweeney. Period.

 

The Jeffery West shoes that normally retail for over £280+ are usually good quality contruction, being goodyear welted.  And they are made in England by Barkers. The higher end JW from £300 use better quality calf leather, but please be aware JW is renown for using the lower quality
shiny patent leather for most of the their unique/sleek/pointy designs. Easy to resole at any cobblers...


Nowadays they have lower-end JW models retailing for less than £190 - these are cement or blake jobs either Made in Italy or "Elsewhere"...easy to throwaway after being worn....

 

Does this help.  

 

BTW: If you want to be serious (and be taken seriously on this forum) start your leather collection...with C&J's; Barkers...etc..

post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by GBR View Post


You now have two commendations to avoid Sweeney shoes including one here. Sufficient, two outplays one blog? What you say of staff mot knowing may be true of sales assistants in shops but does not usually apply at manufacturers at all.

Why should anyone be tolerant of newcomers who are impatient and rebuke people for not responding? No one has any right to answers here as you clearly state although in the last two years that it has descended to this level in some instances regrettably. Doubtless you will consider your conduct and continue as now, you are are of course so right in all things.

 

The commendations have been kindly noted and I'm grateful for them. If I hadn't posted here I would not have had them at all.

 

Granted i may have not been patient but i did not rebuke anyone. People should be tolerant of newcomers (to a certain extent of course) because we have all been newcomers at some point somewhere and most likely been just as annoying. If you respond to someone with an aggravating answer you will most likely be answered the same way (and probably even worse by some). That is certainly not good for anyone and would likely tarnish the image of the forum (to those newcomers).

 

I am not saying anyone has the right to an answer in a public forum at all. But certainly unhelpful answers like the one you made above have no use. If you don't like impatient newcomers then by all means that is your right but surely you can ignore the thread and move along to threads that you are happy to discuss in? If you are unhappy with a particular thread or post then that is why the "report" button is there.

 

I'm not giving you a self righteous speech. I'm simply giving you feedback on how it feels to be a newcomer and responded to like that. I certainly have learned from this to be more patient and careful with my answers. I'm more then capable of considering my conduct when required. The question is: Are you?

post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ilovelobbs View Post

Avoid Oliver Sweeney. Period.

 

The Jeffery West shoes that normally retail for over £280+ are usually good quality contruction, being goodyear welted.  And they are made in England by Barkers. The higher end JW from £300 use better quality calf leather, but please be aware JW is renown for using the lower quality
shiny patent leather for most of the their unique/sleek/pointy designs. Easy to resole at any cobblers...


Nowadays they have lower-end JW models retailing for less than £190 - these are cement or blake jobs either Made in Italy or "Elsewhere"...easy to throwaway after being worn....

 

Does this help.  

 

BTW: If you want to be serious (and be taken seriously on this forum) start your leather collection...with C&J's; Barkers...etc..


Thank you, that is indeed very helpful. As far as OS goes I'm staying away from them.

 

The JW shoes that I was looking at are these:

 

http://www.selfridges.com/en/Menswear/Categories/Shop-Shoes/Shoes/Oxford/Ozzy-burnished-Oxford-shoes_690-10004-3415609109/?previewAttribute=Blk%2Fother

 

It doesn't say if they are G-welted on the Selfridges website and J-W have not replied to several emails I have sent asking about this.

 

I like only a few J-W models of shoes and these particular ones have really caught my eye for being quite unusual (in my opinion anyway). I don't mind spending that amount of money as a one off on a unique pair of shoes but I don't want to spend that sum on shoes that can't be repaired and would have to be thrown away after a few years.

 

The shoe brands that I am looking at the moment are Church's, Cheaney's and Loake. The C&J's are a bit too much for me (as much as I love them) but I'm keeping an eye out for salesfing02[1].gif. I was considering Barker's too but according to quite a few threads I have read they seem to be using compressed cardboard rather than wood (?) on the heels (?) so have shyed away from them so far.

post #19 of 23
Simple task, walk down Jermyn Street and look at the shoe shoes and then go look at Oliver Sweeney shoes, you will change your own mind - Barkers, Church's, both Crockett & Jones shops, Edward Green, Foster & son, John Lobb and Tricker's.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by B-Rogue View Post

I was considering Barker's too but according to quite a few threads I have read they seem to be using compressed cardboard rather than wood (?) on the heels (?) so have shyed away from them so far.

Barker's are a good starting point if you want to minimise your spending. The construction is ok; however, Cheaney, Church's and C&J are better in leather and construction.
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by B-Rogue View Post


Thank you, that is indeed very helpful. As far as OS goes I'm staying away from them.

 

The JW shoes that I was looking at are these:

 

http://www.selfridges.com/en/Menswear/Categories/Shop-Shoes/Shoes/Oxford/Ozzy-burnished-Oxford-shoes_690-10004-3415609109/?previewAttribute=Blk%2Fother

 

It doesn't say if they are G-welted on the Selfridges website and J-W have not replied to several emails I have sent asking about this.

 

I like only a few J-W models of shoes and these particular ones have really caught my eye for being quite unusual (in my opinion anyway). I don't mind spending that amount of money as a one off on a unique pair of shoes but I don't want to spend that sum on shoes that can't be repaired and would have to be thrown away after a few years.

 

The shoe brands that I am looking at the moment are Church's, Cheaney's and Loake. The C&J's are a bit too much for me (as much as I love them) but I'm keeping an eye out for salesfing02%5B1%5D.gif. I was considering Barker's too but according to quite a few threads I have read they seem to be using compressed cardboard rather than wood (?) on the heels (?) so have shyed away from them so far.


The JEFFERY WEST Ozzy is definitely goodyear welted by the finishing; thickness of sole and the price tag.

 

But these are made using lower quality; lower maintenance patent leather - they will crack in a few years time....

 

wait for the sale and pick up some decent Cleverleys and C&J's ...for £300 - they will go twice the distance....

post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by B-Rogue View Post

I've been looking to buy some Oliver Sweeney and Jeffery-West shoes and boots for a while. I have noticed though that quite a lot of their models are not Goodyear welted. Does this mean that they can't be re-soled and once the sole is gone they have to be thrown away? Or is there any other method of protection for these type of shoes?

 

 

Yes.  Talk to cobbler.

 

Add a topy to prolong the sole durability.

 

p.s., they are not worth it.

post #23 of 23
And if the manufacturers can't/won't help, try these people:


http://www.shoerepairing.co.uk/index.htm

They say they can repair almost anything, welted, cimented, blake, Goodyear, possibly even hand stiched. I haven't tried them yet though.
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