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While the consumers obviously love them, these folks (from the Japanese shoe industry) seem to try making sense of it, and perhaps trying to figure out what they lack.
Are we complain about Alden quality in a Japanese shoe tread now ? Made in China can be good as long as you are willing to pay for it... (and know what you're getting in the first place)
I think 'stigma' is something the western world created for the asian market. WIth my studying experience oversea, I believe everywhere has their own custom, so for Japan, their custom of perfectionism shall be kept, otherwise it is not Japanese.
Here are some shoes at a similar price point (around 40000yen, or $400 USD) from SHIPS, made by Hiroshi Tsubouchi. I think they keep the price low by only offering a few models in a few different leathers. I think the leather quality isn't that great, honestly, but in Japan it's a pretty good looking shoe for the price. I really like the shape. They also have cute details inside (little heart-shaped broguing).
I took some photos of a double-monk in the shop today, and I saw this: it seems they are faux-straps, with an elastic attachment so you can just slip them on and off!
There's a shoe shop in Osaka called "Old Hat" that offers MTM shoes and boots for a similar price, about 40000 yen, or $400. I thought the shoes looked very good in person. I don't recall the maker unfortunately, but I do remember that they are "made in Tohoku," which is the same region that Miyagi Kogyo shoes are made. The owner of the shop in Osaka was trained in the UK and speaks very good English. He's also a super nice and helpful guy. Here's a google-translated webpage.
I've been living in Japan for several years now (during the time when Japanese goods were comparatively expensive), but will probably leave for my home country (the US) in 2013. I've been thinking that I might like to have some Japan-made shoes before I go. However, I'm not sure how much the sentimentalism is worth... it seems that US or British made shoes are much better quality for the price, if they're not bought in Japan (where their prices are steeply inflated). What do you guys think? How do Japanese shoes compete in this mid-range (Alden/C&J) price point? Sorry, I can never ask this directly to a Japanese person because they either know little about shoes, or I feel like I'm disrespecting them! Perhaps I am just being too stingy and should go for it without worrying.
There's a shoe shop in Osaka called "Old Hat" that offers MTM shoes and boots for a similar price, about 40000 yen, or $400. I thought the shoes looked very good in person. I don't recall the maker unfortunately, but I do remember that they are "made in Tohoku," which is the same region that Miyagi Kogyo shoes are made. The owner of the shop in Osaka was trained in the UK and speaks very good English. He's also a super nice and helpful guy. Here's a google-translated webpage.
yes I suppose I am but I am complementing them too!!!
But you are very right. I`m not doubting Chinese craftsmen`s skills like folks at the Tianzi shoe shops in Shanghai, and if given a higher budget, I expect them to be able to show off more of what they got.
I`ve seen some quite lovely shoes being made in Laos, of all places. These are sample shoes of a Taiwanese brand that is being sold in Japan, made in Laos
from M`s Blog
The Japanese are very fortunate to be perceived to have this quality intrinsic to their craft culture. Whether true or not.
I talked to a shoemaker who apprenticed both overseas and in Japan, and he said he was blown away by the obsessive nature of quality control in the Japanese factory, unseen in the Euro factory, where he says more emphasis was given to nurture the artistic sense of the apprentices.
yes I suppose I am but I am complementing them too!!!
But you are very right. I`m not doubting Chinese craftsmen`s skills like folks at the Tianzi shoe shops in Shanghai, and if given a higher budget, I expect them to be able to show off more of what they got.
I`ve seen some quite lovely shoes being made in Laos, of all places. These are sample shoes of a Taiwanese brand that is being sold in Japan, made in Laos
from M`s Blog
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You are such a knowledgeable man. I did not know about the last of Miyagi. Where in Tokyo can I see the better range of Miyagi? I believe there are some grades among their offer.
I've been living in Japan for several years now (during the time when Japanese goods were comparatively expensive), but will probably leave for my home country (the US) in 2013. I've been thinking that I might like to have some Japan-made shoes before I go. However, I'm not sure how much the sentimentalism is worth... it seems that US or British made shoes are much better quality for the price, if they're not bought in Japan (where their prices are steeply inflated). What do you guys think? How do Japanese shoes compete in this mid-range (Alden/C&J) price point? Sorry, I can never ask this directly to a Japanese person because they either know little about shoes, or I feel like I'm disrespecting them! Perhaps I am just being too stingy and should go for it without worrying.