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post #841 of 3048
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

All the polished floors in Shinjuku station and other places play havoc with me when I wear leather soles.

Ouch!!

Personally, I find Dainite to be equally prone to skidding when the polished floor (marble etc...) gets wet from rain.
post #842 of 3048
Yes, leather soles are slippery indeed. Is it common for people to vibram their soles? I understand some Japanese shoemakers do that as well.
post #843 of 3048
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

Yes, leather soles are slippery indeed. Is it common for people to vibram their soles? I understand some Japanese shoemakers do that as well.

In the city? Vibram sole??
post #844 of 3048
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

Yes, leather soles are slippery indeed. Is it common for people to vibram their soles? I understand some Japanese shoemakers do that as well.

You mean those glued on half rubber soles? Yes they are quite popular. I've seen people glue those on brand new leather soles.

A more popular solution (offered by quite a few repair shoes) is a combination of rubber+metal toe taps.



post #845 of 3048
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

You mean those glued on half rubber soles? Yes they are quite popular. I've seen people glue those on brand new leather soles.

A more popular solution (offered by quite a few repair shoes) is a combination of rubber+metal toe taps.

Wow. Very different way of wearing shoes indeed. I don't notice people in London having rubber soles glued onto their shoes, but then again, I don't go around observing people's shoe soles. Metal toe-taps are quite popular among forum members on here. I have them on the heels of a few pairs of shoes because I over-pronate and they go very very quickly.
Edited by bboysdontcryy - 5/29/13 at 1:35am
post #846 of 3048
Thread Starter 
Then you mean Vibram soles as in their Dainite lookalike 'Eton' soles?

AppleMark
I snapped this pic from RESH shoe repair @ Mitsukoshi Ginza. Quite a selection of colors, available for recraft.
post #847 of 3048
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

Then you mean Vibram soles as in their Dainite lookalike 'Eton' soles?

AppleMark
I snapped this pic from RESH shoe repair @ Mitsukoshi Ginza. Quite a selection of colors, available for recraft.

Sorry I wasn't clear -- I meant Dainite soles as in the English-made Dainite soles. You got it correct. That is common in London.

What isn't common over here (I think) is the vibram rubber soles glued onto the soles (like the picture you put up with the toe-taps). Re-soling is probably more common. How much do shoe makers charge to install toe-taps, and resole shoes?

Might get double taper to single leather soles (HAF).
post #848 of 3048
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

That is common in London......What isn't common over here (I think) is the vibram rubber soles glued onto the soles (like the picture you put up with the toe-taps).

Thin (about 3 mm, 1/8") glued-on rubber soles are extremely popular in London (and elsewhere). They are called "Topies".

Topy is one manufacturer of these type of rubber; either in sheet-form or as pre-cut soles. (There are numerous other manufacturers worldwide.)

http://www.topy.fr/en/Home

Maybe Topy is the firm who invented them, maybe not, but their name (at least in Europe and the States) has become the generic name for this type of sole.

"Vibram" (although the company has dozens of other designs in their catalogue) has become the generic name for lugged rubber soles.
post #849 of 3048
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post

Thin (about 3 mm, 1/8") glued-on rubber soles are extremely popular in London (and elsewhere). They are called "Topies".

Topy is one manufacturer of these type of rubber; either in sheet-form or as pre-cut soles. (There are numerous other manufacturers worldwide.)

http://www.topy.fr/en/Home

Maybe Topy is the firm who invented them, maybe not, but their name (at least in Europe and the States) has become the generic name for this type of sole.

"Vibram" (although the company has dozens of other designs in their catalogue) has become the generic name for lugged rubber soles.

Aha, yes, Topy. Thanks B-S!
post #850 of 3048
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

Sorry I wasn't clear -- I meant Dainite soles as in the English-made Dainite soles. You got it correct. That is common in London.

What isn't common over here (I think) is the vibram rubber soles glued onto the soles (like the picture you put up with the toe-taps). Re-soling is probably more common. How much do shoe makers charge to install toe-taps, and resole shoes?

Might get double taper to single leather soles (HAF).

Though I'm not sure about the exact price, shoemakers tend to charge a bit more (vs aftermarket repair shops) for toe taps, but they can do some adjustment to the bottom stitches to avoid them being torn by the screws (please correct me if wrong). Recrafting by a Bespoke maker also costs more too, but they can re-configure the fit using the original last.

Aftermarket toe taps (at a typical repair shop) cost ¥3000 and up. For resole (machine stitched), price starts around ¥10K, and more for fancier material/finish.

I know JL Paris voids your warranty if you get it fixed elsewhere, but I've never heard a Japanese brand/shoemaker insist such a thing.

HAF soles may cost a lil extra for your order, you may want to confirm with Mr.Hiro.
post #851 of 3048
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post


I know JL Paris voids your warranty if you get it fixed elsewhere, but I've never heard a Japanese brand/shoemaker insist such a thing.

They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?
post #852 of 3048
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?

I do generally buy lasted shoe trees, or often the shoe will comes with a pair. However, not for cheaper shoes, those that uses generic trees.
post #853 of 3048
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post


They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?

 

 

I always have a tendency to buy lasted trees - as long it's not too extortionate...

 

Vass and Saint Crispins present the best value lasted trees for the money.

 

JLP RTW - use standard trees and not worth the money...I know some of their recent trees

are now lasted... 

post #854 of 3048
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post


I do generally buy lasted shoe trees, or often the shoe will comes with a pair. However, not for cheaper shoes, those that uses generic trees.

 

I have seen £2000 italian shoes come with trees....but using those cheap plastic trees...with the turning screw

in the middle to tighten.  

post #855 of 3048
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?

If available, I do get them, if they are not already included

The new JLP's RTW shoe trees look nice, but unlike StC, G&G etc...., they are not last specific. One model is supposed to fit all the lasts. (I asked the store manager)

Btw Hiro's lasted shoe trees (I believe they are hornbeam) go for ¥25K, sounds steep but actually in line for a Bespoke maker.
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