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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

What brand?

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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

Those looks very nice, where I can get my hands on outside Japan?
The QC factor in Japan is something good to be kept. Both world has its own strengths and weaknesses, however, from a customer point of view, Japanese bespoke shoes are a better package than the British once. I guess it is just the part of culture.

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Is this the same one with the brand name with the meaning of "Godhand masterpiece" or "Divine Craftsmanship"?Is it pronounced "Shinsho"?I suspect the one what I mean here is basically the same factory as the one sold in US from one of SF sponsor.

Bamboo, you are correct.

The company is called Kamioka in Japanese, named after Shen-gang in Taichung city, aka the Northampton of Taiwan. It is a Taiwanese company based in Taichung, and Kamioka is their Japanese subsidiary. The bulk of their business seems to come from their OEM contracts. They have a factory in Laos, where these shoes are made. Their head shoemaker, a fellow Taiwanese, was instructed by Eric Cook (yes, that Eric Cook). While I am not certain, I think they may be the one making shoes for our fellow SF member.

They sell the shoes under the house brand named Ingenuity, or `Shinsho`. I understand they are sold in Japan only, for now. Their standard line of shoes aren`t as nice as those samples I posted above though lol8[1].gif

Here are the shoes sold under the Shinsho name (in Japan)
http://www.ingenuity.co.jp/product

Here are the OEM shoes they produce (under various brand names)
http://www.ingenuity.co.jp/factory
Edited by nutcracker - 5/3/13 at 5:57pm
post #497 of 2840
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You are such a knowledgeable man.  I did not know about the last of  Miyagi.  Where in Tokyo can I see the better range of Miyagi?  I believe there are some grades among their offer.

Ok, Miyagi Kogyo has a very confusing company structure. Their core business is OEM (B2B). With a large selection of pre-made designs, lasts, sizes, and materials, solid goodyear welted construction, and a low starting price (¥30,000 plus), they are favored by quite a few brands and small fashion businesses looking for their private shoe collection. They also take MTO orders from individual consumers (B2C) under the alias Wasoryoka. The Alden lookalikes I posted earlier belongs to this collection.
To avoid confusion, I call them Miyagi Kogyo MTOs.

Then there is the MIYAGI KOGYO RTW shoes. These shoes are exclusively made for and sold at select retailers such as the World Footwear Gallery (www.wfg-net.com) in Tokyo, and Isetan Mitsukoshi in Osaka. The designs and the lasts are also exclusive, and not available in their MTO line. Material, fit, and finish are done in much higher standard (vs their MTO), hence the higher price (¥50,000 and above). While styled quite classically in the English school, their lasts (originally designed by the famed modelista Hiroshi Arai) are oblique and banana shaped, heavily influenced by American lasts (namely Alden). I say they may have wanted to combine the best of English and American qualities into one. Personally, I love the fit and shape of the last, and for those who`s size is under 9 (their largest size), definitely worth a try. Just to be sure though, not all of their lasts have the `inside straight, outside curve` shape.
I call them Miyagi Kogyo RTW shoes.

The RTW shoes are available in their entirety @ World Footwear Gallery, in Harajuku, or Ginza, in Tokyo. They are also available in Osaka from Mitsukoshi Isetan department store.
Edited by nutcracker - 5/2/13 at 8:16am
post #498 of 2840
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il Micio by Hidetaka Fukaya
The Usual Suspects

http://beijing1980.tumblr.com/post/49345103620/il-micio



The original Japanese-Italian silhouette icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

.....he was on news lately involving pro soccer players lol8[1].gif
post #499 of 2840
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Bespoke Kilt Tassels by Il Quadrifoglio

I snapped these from last week`s show, they`re someone else`s




Edited by nutcracker - 5/2/13 at 6:46pm
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Bespoke Kilt Tassels by Il Quadrifoglio

I snapped these from last week`s show, they`re someone else`s



Amazing!

I recall a decorative apron worn by a sumo wrestler laugh.gif

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The original Japanese-Italian silhouette icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

.....he was on news lately involving pro soccer players lol8[1].gif

The shoe on the left reminds me of the Vass K last and the right reminds me of the Vass F last...

 

This shoe industry very incestuous

post #502 of 2840
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The shoe on the left reminds me of the Vass K last and the right reminds me of the Vass F last...

This shoe industry very incestuous

lol8[1].gif Not a coincidence.... Roberto Ugolini helped design the F last, and he also happens to be Fukaya`s ex-mentor.
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Bamboo, you are correct.

The company is called Kamioka in Japanese, named after Shen-gang in Taichung city, aka the Northampton of Taiwan. It is a Taiwanese company based in Taichung, and Kamioka is their Japanese subsidiary. The bulk of their business seems to come from their OEM contracts. They have a factory in Laos, where these shoes are made. Their head shoemaker, a fellow Taiwanese, was instructed by Ian Cook (yes, that Ian Cook). While I am not certain, I think they may be the one making shoes for our fellow SF member.

They sell the shoes under the house brand named Ingenuity, or `Shinsho`. I understand they are sold in Japan only, for now. Their standard line of shoes aren`t as nice as those samples I posted above though lol8[1].gif

Here are the shoes sold under the Shinsho name (in Japan)
http://www.ingenuity.co.jp/product

Here are the OEM shoes they produce (under various brand names)
http://www.ingenuity.co.jp/factory


Good to know stuff, I wonder what's the best they can do.
post #504 of 2840
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Good to know stuff, I wonder what's the best they can do.

CC,

The company`s name is Turnright, based in Taichung. The sample shoes you saw above (and below) were made in Taiwan at their own atelier, at a considerably high standard (handsewn welted) for display at trade shows. Shoes made in Laos are priced at ¥30,000 ($300) range, and are goodyear welted. They employ several Japanese veteran shoemakers to supervise the Laos factories.

Some of their better efforts...Sample Shoes; handsewn welted


Shaped like JLP`s Jermyn II



Berlutti-esque



Buckle and Elastic



Grey base plus black patina


Handpainting




Ingenuity Shoes are sold in Japan, but will be available in China and Singapore too (may have already started)

taken from Mr.Yamashita`s site
post #505 of 2840

Impressive!  Are any of their higher quality products sold, or just made for demonstration purposes?  They have my attention...

post #506 of 2840
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Those looks very nice, where I can get my hands on outside Japan?
The QC factor in Japan is something good to be kept. Both world has its own strengths and weaknesses, however, from a customer point of view, Japanese bespoke shoes are a better package than the British once. I guess it is just the part of culture.

On a side note, back in the days, japanese electronic are made in a very high standard. My home telephone is brought from Japanese after the first wave of cordless handhelds, it has been at least 15 years and we are still using it. I think our family swap televisions more frequently than home phone.

 

I am fascinated with the Japanese desire for perfection - I have seen guys spending hours insepcting every aspect

of the shoes for flaws, blemishes and defects before parting their credit cards...They have some serious OCD for quality...

 

I have seen Japanese specialist friut boutique selling perfect fruits like apples; oranges; pears for over

$5 each....and winter melons for $50.....

post #507 of 2840
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Bamboo, you are correct.

The company is called Kamioka in Japanese, named after Shen-gang in Taichung city, aka the Northampton of Taiwan. It is a Taiwanese company based in Taichung, and Kamioka is their Japanese subsidiary. The bulk of their business seems to come from their OEM contracts. They have a factory in Laos, where these shoes are made. Their head shoemaker, a fellow Taiwanese, was instructed by Ian Cook (yes, that Ian Cook). While I am not certain, I think they may be the one making shoes for our fellow SF member.

They sell the shoes under the house brand named Ingenuity, or `Shinsho`. I understand they are sold in Japan only, for now. Their standard line of shoes aren`t as nice as those samples I posted above though lol8[1].gif

Here are the shoes sold under the Shinsho name (in Japan)
http://www.ingenuity.co.jp/product

Here are the OEM shoes they produce (under various brand names)
http://www.ingenuity.co.jp/factory

angry.gifcloud.gif Only go up to size 9.
post #508 of 2840
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Impressive!  Are any of their higher quality products sold, or just made for demonstration purposes?  They have my attention...

Not sure, but they seem to be for Demonstration purpose only.... I might as well visit their Tokyo showroom and ask....

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angry.gifcloud.gif Only go up to size 9.

Doh! Hopefully they will have larger sizes once they expand to more countries....
post #509 of 2840
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post


CC,

The company`s name is Turnright, based in Taichung. The sample shoes you saw above (and below) were made in Taiwan at their own atelier, at a considerably high standard (handsewn welted) for display at trade shows. Shoes made in Laos are priced at ¥30,000 ($300) range, and are goodyear welted. They employ several Japanese veteran shoemakers to supervise the Laos factories.

Some of their better efforts...Sample Shoes; handsewn welted


 

   kinda like this one . . . . where to kop please .

post #510 of 2840
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   kinda like this one . . . . where to kop please .

As far as I know, those are one off sample shoes made for trade shows. Their actual line of RTW shoes are available in Japan (and possibly China and Singapore), but not nearly as nice.
http://www.ingenuity.co.jp/product

They have a small showroom in downtown Tokyo.
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