Originally Posted by nutcracker
I don`t own SC shoes, but those who do, or want to get one, what do you think about them being made in Romania? I assume the factory craftsmen are trained/supervised by Michael Rollig / Phllip Carr and who not, and the workmanship is obviously top notch. Yet do you feel SC shoes are any less prestigious than if made in Austria, or Italy?
Japan`s Union Imperial shoes, for example, are hand lasted and handsewn welted, like the SC (albeit not nearly as pristine), but in fact they are mostly made in Union`s factory in China
. Obviously cheaper to hire, the Chinese craftsmen are nevertheless supervised and taught to the exact standard set by the Japanese veterans. The shoes are sent back to Japan for bottom stitching and detailing / finish. Union Imperial claims that their handsewn welted shoes, priced at a medium price of ¥50,000 or so, would cost ¥100,000 if completely made in Japan.
I know some of you were interested in Union Imperial shoes. Now, knowing that they are hand lasted and handsewn welted in China, are they less desirable now?? vs 100% Made in Japan?? or are they more desirable now for seeming like a bargain?
I own several pairs of SC shoes...At Y50K for shoes made in China,
commissioned in Japan, it's def doable.
I have been to Shanghai and had bespoke shoes made from as little as £150 - I gave them a design
from Berluti's, they measured me up for 1 hour; called me 5-6 weeks later for 1st trial fitting and 4
weeks later the finished product was superb. The only downside was the quality of leather
available to pick from. They were sourced locally so inferior compared to the
Frenchcalf Vass & C&J's uses.
Had I supplied my own leather uppers and sole, the end product would have been better.
Still £150 for bespoke you can't complain - I'll try and dig them out and post pics this weekend.
Because we're talking about high-end luxury products/shoes being retailed at $500-$1000+++ the average
Joe Blogg on the streets would put a higher weighting on where the shoes were made.
There always a premium for stuff made in England; France; Italy...etc..
And the premium to compensate for the high cost of labour; rent; materials..etc...
To this day, I am still not sure how SC can justify charging €1000 for their handwelted shoes
made in Romania. Maybe they are lots of Austrian expats...
Vass on the hand is truly unique - handwelted shoes with similar calf grade (personally I think it's better)
at €500 a pair is simply getting a lot of BANG for your WONGA.........If any of the the English makers were to
throw away their welted machines and follow the Vass hand processes stitch by stitch; thread by thread,
the production cost would exceed €500....Add 20% VAT for Mr Osbourne; rent; duty; tax - retail you're talking about €1000+
Edited by Ilovelobbs - 5/1/13 at 9:08am