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post #421 of 2722
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

I haven't touch many bespoke shoes from the Europe so I am not sure how good are they.

 

Shouldn't the need of these shoemakers putting their apprenticeship on their resume be a vote of confidence of the skill of their masters in UK/Europe?

 

And as I've stated before, the Japanese makers combines their industrial cultural with the art form of their UK/Italy masters and became distinct and maybe sometimes superior choices.  I think most of them are a cross of French and Italian shoes despite a lot of them learned their craft at the Cordwainers College and apprenticed under Lobb London and Cleverley.

post #422 of 2722
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Shouldn't the need of these shoemakers putting their apprenticeship on their resume be a vote of confidence of the skill of their masters in UK/Europe?

And as I've stated before, the Japanese makers combines their industrial cultural with the art form of their UK/Italy masters and became distinct and maybe sometimes superior choices.  I think most of them are a cross of French and Italian shoes despite a lot of them learned their craft at the Cordwainers College and apprenticed under Lobb London and Cleverley.

I respectively agreed.
post #423 of 2722
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

If you count the number of makers that has apprenticed under Paul Wilson, Ugolini, Cleverley, etc, its not that hard to understand the teachers of these Japanese makers are held at a higher regard.

Besides, didn't Gomez told Hayafuji that he needs a few more years before he can truly be good at the craft?

Yeah, Gomez told Hayafuji he needed 10 years of experience to be good. Fascinatingly, I think Hayafuji took his master's advice. After making shoes unofficially in Japan for 4 years though Tie Your Tie (he could have started a shoemaking career full time), he quit and went back to apprenticeship in Germany for 3 more years. He finally opened his business (officially) last year.

Furuhata, who did 5 yrs at old Gatto and Messina, and another 5 yrs as as independent maker, apparently decided he needed more. He's folding his business and is going to work at Marini, Rome. Not sure how long he intends to stay there.

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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Awesome whole cut imitation brogue. Are the heel stiffeners extend to waist to waist?

Thanks!
I asked him if there was less stiffeners. He said there was no skimping on it, fully standard. I assume it is waist to waist, but I can ask.
post #424 of 2722

I think the standard is just heel stiffeners. And if you want some arch or lateral foot support, they can go waist to waist.  For beveled/fiddled waist, they usually go waist to waist to strengthen the shoes.

post #425 of 2722
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

So here it is, after a few alterations in design....

Il Quadrifoglio by Qnai Atsushi
Wholecut Oxford with Imitation Brogues


 

Great!

Everything is configured by a curve,like an Italian luxury sports car.

Color and design is well suited.

post #426 of 2722
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Originally Posted by BespokeMakers View Post

Great!
Everything is configured by a curve,like an Italian luxury sports car.

Color and design is well suited.

Thank you! Yes, the design and last look surprisingly good either dressy or casual (as in the green sample shoes) fing02[1].gif
post #427 of 2722

Everyone, Are you interested in Japanese leather goods ?

If you don't mind, will you please take a look.

 

Japanese Leather Goods/Accessories - Style Forum

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/346111/japanese-leather-goods-accessories

post #428 of 2722
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Originally Posted by nate10184 View Post

Last is crazy nice.

tumblr_mhjjtpX1IY1s3of5io1_500.jpg

where are those from?
post #429 of 2722
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Originally Posted by Xenon View Post

The shoe on center fore front in lilac with purple tip, what a sublime patination. Simply outstanding.

It's amazing how much talent these japanese makers have in all aspects.
+1
post #430 of 2722
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post



A bigger photo biggrin.gif

How can we order this? Is it available RTW?
post #431 of 2722
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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm View Post

where are those from?

I saw them here.
post #432 of 2722
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How can we order this? Is it available RTW?

Those are bespoke sample shoes by Il Quadrifoglio. Qnai said he made that several years ago. It is blue based with a bit of purple.
While no patina job will look identical, Qnai says if requested, he can have it done almost the same.

Il Quadrifoglio`s Tokyo Trunk Show is just ending today. He also does shows in Osaka and Kobe, I think. Or you can visit him at his Kobe atelier smile.gif
Edited by nutcracker - 4/29/13 at 6:15am
post #433 of 2722
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Originally Posted by BespokeMakers View Post

Everyone, Are you interested in Japanese leather goods ?
If you don't mind, will you please take a look.

Japanese Leather Goods/Accessories - Style Forum

http://www.styleforum.net/t/346111/japanese-leather-goods-accessories

oh my..... a Japanese leathergoods thread......believe it or not, I also have a comprehensive list of Japanese Bespoke malletiers, as well as RTW makers. Leather goods industry is way larger than shoe industry, its quite a different animal. I`m travelling aboard right now, so maybe I`ll pitch in some in that thread later.
post #434 of 2722
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

oh my..... a Japanese leathergoods thread......believe it or not, I also have a comprehensive list of Japanese Bespoke malletiers, as well as RTW makers. Leather goods industry is way larger than shoe industry, its quite a different animal. I`m travelling aboard right now, so maybe I`ll pitch in some in that thread later.

Please do.
post #435 of 2722
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

oh my..... a Japanese leathergoods thread......believe it or not, I also have a comprehensive list of Japanese Bespoke malletiers, as well as RTW makers. Leather goods industry is way larger than shoe industry, its quite a different animal. I`m travelling aboard right now, so maybe I`ll pitch in some in that thread later.

Interested in some hippo and elephant belts. is this available? Nutcracker - can you help?
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