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I am planning an upcoming trip to Japan and am thinking of commissioning a pair of bespoke shoes. I was wondering which shoemakers were amenable to overseas orders / English-speaking clients? From reading the thread, it looks like Yohei Fukuda, Marquess and Hiro Yanagimachi all speak good English, while Main D'Or understands enough English and has written notes that make ordering possible, and Spigola does not like to deal with English speaking clients. What about Clematis? Are there any others that people would recommend?

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FYI, I've only heard negative things about them

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FYI, I've only heard negative things about them

oh?

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Most seem to think they're overpriced with bad fit and finish

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So it sounds like everyone I listed plus Seiji McCarthy, other than Koji Suzuki, all have no issues with orders from English-speaking customers. Has anyone had success placing an order with Koji Suzuki of Spigola in English while meeting him in Japan?
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So it sounds like everyone I listed plus Seiji McCarthy, other than Koji Suzuki, all have no issues with orders from English-speaking customers. Has anyone had success placing an order with Koji Suzuki of Spigola in English while meeting him in Japan?
Never had any experience with any of the Japanese maker but last time I was in Toronto I stopped by Leatherfoot and they some Koji Suzuki shoes on display and was told he was moving there. Part of their plans to have one stop shop for all of gentleman sartorial needs. Already got an Italian tailor there as well in addition to the RTW brands. If Suzuki relocate to Toronto ordering from Leatherfoot should be easier
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Never had any experience with any of the Japanese maker but last time I was in Toronto I stopped by Leatherfoot and they some Koji Suzuki shoes on display and was told he was moving there. Part of their plans to have one stop shop for all of gentleman sartorial needs. Already got an Italian tailor there as well in addition to the RTW brands. If Suzuki relocate to Toronto ordering from Leatherfoot should be easier

Not Koji Suzuki. Koji Endo from Gentille 79
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Not Koji Suzuki. Koji Endo from Gentille 79
Sorry my mistake, did not realize it was a different maker
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So it sounds like everyone I listed plus Seiji McCarthy, other than Koji Suzuki, all have no issues with orders from English-speaking customers. Has anyone had success placing an order with Koji Suzuki of Spigola in English while meeting him in Japan?

 

Tried emailing him prior to my trip there. 

He gave one half hearted one line reply before falling completely radio silent after further emails. 

With people like Marquess and Hiro around, doing the work they do, and at Spigola's price point, he more or less made himself irrelevant with his attitude, at least IMO. Nothing overtly spectacular about his work either.

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Tried emailing him prior to my trip there. 
He gave one half hearted one line reply before falling completely radio silent after further emails. 
With people like Marquess and Hiro around, doing the work they do, and at Spigola's price point, he more or less made himself irrelevant with his attitude, at least IMO. Nothing overtly spectacular about his work either.

Thanks for the info. For those makers (and any others that you contacted), did you have to be put on a waitlist or anything like that, or was it just "let me make sure I am around during those days and don't have conflicting appointments. If so, make an appointment and come by." I had read that back in the day Spigola had a long waitlist, and given that most of these places are small shops, I just wanted to make sure no one else did either
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Tried emailing him prior to my trip there. 
He gave one half hearted one line reply before falling completely radio silent after further emails. 
With people like Marquess and Hiro around, doing the work they do, and at Spigola's price point, he more or less made himself irrelevant with his attitude, at least IMO. Nothing overtly spectacular about his work either.

Funny that you put those two forward.
Hosting Hiros first trunk show in Europe 2. and 3. September in Norway.
As for Marquess, I cannot recommend him enough. He's a real pleasure to work with. Super friendly and helpful.
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Thanks for the info. For those makers (and any others that you contacted), did you have to be put on a waitlist or anything like that, or was it just "let me make sure I am around during those days and don't have conflicting appointments. If so, make an appointment and come by." I had read that back in the day Spigola had a long waitlist, and given that most of these places are small shops, I just wanted to make sure no one else did either

In general, I think the Japanese bespoke makers won't turn you away because of a long wait list. 

I am sure they understand that their foreign clients can't change flight plans on a whim. 

If they have many many outstanding orders, I reckon they would just tell you that it might take longer to get your first fitting (typically 6mths), or your final completed shoes (typically 1 year). They won't tell you to bug off for your first appointment though. And you're right, you should email well in advance just to make sure they are at the shop on your chosen day and fix an appointment. 

With regards to my experience, Fukuda-san was a pleasure to deal with. I typically email him 3 months prior to firming up my travel plans and give him a rough idea of when I'd be coming (say... first week of Dec, second week of Dec), just to give him an idea. Once he gives an all clear, I firm up my travel plans and buy my tickets, email him again and tell him the specifics (exact day and time). I did the same with Main D'Or.

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In general, I think the Japanese bespoke makers won't turn you away because of a long wait list. 
I am sure they understand that their foreign clients can't change flight plans on a whim. 
If they have many many outstanding orders, I reckon they would just tell you that it might take longer to get your first fitting (typically 6mths), or your final completed shoes (typically 1 year). They won't tell you to bug off for your first appointment though. And you're right, you should email well in advance just to make sure they are at the shop on your chosen day and fix an appointment. 

That's good to hear, but couldn't they potentially turn you away entirely? For example, anyone seeking to become a new client at Sartoria Corcos in Florence won't be able to place an order until 2018 at the earliest because Kotaro (the tailor) is so busy he will only take returning clients' orders. I am going to email them to see if I can come but was just wondering if anyone is aware of a similar situation with any of these shoemakers
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That's good to hear, but couldn't they potentially turn you away entirely? For example, anyone seeking to become a new client at Sartoria Corcos in Florence won't be able to place an order until 2018 at the earliest because Kotaro (the tailor) is so busy he will only take returning clients' orders. I am going to email them to see if I can come but was just wondering if anyone is aware of a similar situation with any of these shoemakers

I guess they could do so if they wanted. But I haven't encountered that. 

You're right about Corcos.... I'd gotten the same answer from Miyahira-san when I emailed him. 

No biggie to me though, some things are worth waiting for...... LOL.

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I guess they could do so if they wanted. But I haven't encountered that. 
I'd gotten the same answer from Miyahira-san when I emailed him. 
No biggie to me though, some things are worth waiting for...... LOL 

Alright, that's reassuring. Luckily on the tailoring side, I placed an order with him last year, so I am considered a returning client and can still place orders
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