Japanese Shoes: Bespoke & RTW Super Thread

[nutcracker]



All the polished floors in Shinjuku station and other places play havoc with me when I wear leather soles.

Ouch!!

Personally, I find Dainite to be equally prone to skidding when the polished floor (marble etc...) gets wet from rain.

 

[bboysdontcryy]

Yes, leather soles are slippery indeed. Is it common for people to vibram their soles? I understand some Japanese shoemakers do that as well.

 

[add911_11]



Yes, leather soles are slippery indeed. Is it common for people to vibram their soles? I understand some Japanese shoemakers do that as well.

In the city? Vibram sole??

 

[nutcracker]



Yes, leather soles are slippery indeed. Is it common for people to vibram their soles? I understand some Japanese shoemakers do that as well.

You mean those glued on half rubber soles? Yes they are quite popular. I've seen people glue those on brand new leather soles.

A more popular solution (offered by quite a few repair shoes) is a combination of rubber+metal toe taps.

 

[bboysdontcryy]



You mean those glued on half rubber soles? Yes they are quite popular. I've seen people glue those on brand new leather soles.

A more popular solution (offered by quite a few repair shoes) is a combination of rubber+metal toe taps.

Wow. Very different way of wearing shoes indeed. I don't notice people in London having rubber soles glued onto their shoes, but then again, I don't go around observing people's shoe soles. Metal toe-taps are quite popular among forum members on here. I have them on the heels of a few pairs of shoes because I over-pronate and they go very very quickly.

 

[nutcracker]

Then you mean Vibram soles as in their Dainite lookalike 'Eton' soles?

I snapped this pic from RESH shoe repair @ Mitsukoshi Ginza. Quite a selection of colors, available for recraft.

 

[bboysdontcryy]



Then you mean Vibram soles as in their Dainite lookalike 'Eton' soles?

I snapped this pic from RESH shoe repair @ Mitsukoshi Ginza. Quite a selection of colors, available for recraft.

Sorry I wasn't clear -- I meant Dainite soles as in the English-made Dainite soles. You got it correct. That is common in London.

What isn't common over here (I think) is the vibram rubber soles glued onto the soles (like the picture you put up with the toe-taps). Re-soling is probably more common. How much do shoe makers charge to install toe-taps, and resole shoes?

Might get double taper to single leather soles (HAF).

 

[bengal-stripe]



That is common in London......What isn't common over here (I think) is the vibram rubber soles glued onto the soles (like the picture you put up with the toe-taps).

Thin (about 3 mm, 1/8") glued-on rubber soles are extremely popular in London (and elsewhere). They are called "Topies".

Topy is one manufacturer of these type of rubber; either in sheet-form or as pre-cut soles. (There are numerous other manufacturers worldwide.)

http://www.topy.fr/en/Home

Maybe Topy is the firm who invented them, maybe not, but their name (at least in Europe and the States) has become the generic name for this type of sole.

"Vibram" (although the company has dozens of other designs in their catalogue) has become the generic name for lugged rubber soles.

 

[nutcracker]



Thin (about 3 mm, 1/8") glued-on rubber soles are extremely popular in London (and elsewhere). They are called "Topies".

Topy is one manufacturer of these type of rubber; either in sheet-form or as pre-cut soles. (There are numerous other manufacturers worldwide.)

http://www.topy.fr/en/Home

Maybe Topy is the firm who invented them, maybe not, but their name (at least in Europe and the States) has become the generic name for this type of sole.

"Vibram" (although the company has dozens of other designs in their catalogue) has become the generic name for lugged rubber soles.

Aha, yes, Topy. Thanks B-S!

 

[nutcracker]



Sorry I wasn't clear -- I meant Dainite soles as in the English-made Dainite soles. You got it correct. That is common in London.

What isn't common over here (I think) is the vibram rubber soles glued onto the soles (like the picture you put up with the toe-taps). Re-soling is probably more common. How much do shoe makers charge to install toe-taps, and resole shoes?

Might get double taper to single leather soles (HAF).

Though I'm not sure about the exact price, shoemakers tend to charge a bit more (vs aftermarket repair shops) for toe taps, but they can do some adjustment to the bottom stitches to avoid them being torn by the screws (please correct me if wrong). Recrafting by a Bespoke maker also costs more too, but they can re-configure the fit using the original last.

Aftermarket toe taps (at a typical repair shop) cost ¥3000 and up. For resole (machine stitched), price starts around ¥10K, and more for fancier material/finish.

I know JL Paris voids your warranty if you get it fixed elsewhere, but I've never heard a Japanese brand/shoemaker insist such a thing.

HAF soles may cost a lil extra for your order, you may want to confirm with Mr.Hiro.

 

[bboysdontcryy]



I know JL Paris voids your warranty if you get it fixed elsewhere, but I've never heard a Japanese brand/shoemaker insist such a thing.

They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?

 

[add911_11]



They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?

I do generally buy lasted shoe trees, or often the shoe will comes with a pair. However, not for cheaper shoes, those that uses generic trees.

 

[Ilovelobbs]

They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?

I always have a tendency to buy lasted trees - as long it's not too extortionate...

Vass and Saint Crispins present the best value lasted trees for the money.

JLP RTW - use standard trees and not worth the money...I know some of their recent trees
are now lasted...

 

[Ilovelobbs]

I do generally buy lasted shoe trees, or often the shoe will comes with a pair. However, not for cheaper shoes, those that uses generic trees.

I have seen £2000 italian shoes come with trees....but using those cheap plastic trees...with the turning screw
in the middle to tighten.

 

[nutcracker]



They charge a wicked sum for re-soling.

On a general note -- Do you guys buy lasted shoe trees (if that option is available) for every pair of shoes?

If available, I do get them, if they are not already included

The new JLP's RTW shoe trees look nice, but unlike StC, G&G etc...., they are not last specific. One model is supposed to fit all the lasts. (I asked the store manager)

Btw Hiro's lasted shoe trees (I believe they are hornbeam) go for ¥25K, sounds steep but actually in line for a Bespoke maker.