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post #2206 of 2580
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Originally Posted by Slips View Post
 

Is it better to get a custom made briefcase or buy a good one?

 

Hi there,

 

As a bespoke casemaker my perspective is admittedly biased, but I will offer it anyways.

 

SimonC is correct that what motivates your decision to buy a very nice case will inform custom or designer. I think the biggest advantage of the designer, off the shelf case, is that it carries with it a brand identity, an easily recognizable identifier of status or luxury and sometimes quality.

 

My clients are typically looking for something special, however, and are always paying attention to value. Whether SAB or Dunhill, LV or Hermes, the bulk of your money goes to that brand identity. Save for Hermes and their extraordinary pricing, my materials and manufacture are far superior to any other large brand. For my clients, the finished aesthetic of a case hand crafted from the worlds finest materials carries with it an undeniable air of luxury, one indeed visible from a mile away; but there is also an unmistakable connoisseurship evident that one cannot claim to when buying off the rack.

 

More importantly however, is the design process itself. Between my clients and I exists a truly collaborative relationship. I inquire about lifestyle, personal style, work environment, and travel, but also to more ethereal inspirations and then work to translate those elements into the language of the case. Through attentive communication for however long it takes, we hone in together on a case that perfectly expresses the needs for form and function.

 

The end results are cases of the highest quality, that are truly considered and as unique as each clients style. If you agree that you ought to 'buy nice, or buy twice', I believe that employing the design skill of a bespoke maker is the best way to ensure that your case will be truly yours, unequivocally unique, functional, stylish, and luxurious. In terms of value, it would be hard to match this buying off-the-shelf.

 

Below is an example of a wonderful case, filled with customizations to perfectly suit the life and style of a bespoke client. Full suede lining, organization pockets, multiple interior sleeves, trolley strap and newspaper pocket, wrap handle, shoulder strap and pad, London Tan with contrast stitch, contemporary proportioning and the Italian-made Clock Lock. I believe we spent two months collaborating on this design and completely achieved the clients goals.

 

Cheers,

Shane 

 

 

post #2207 of 2580
PSA:

Smythson is still running a Black Monday sale. The items I wish I needed are the 24-hour and 48-hour carry-ons from the Gresham collection. One under the seat, one overhead-- problems solved, unless you don't have your suits waiting for you at your destination.

40% off a large sum is a nice savings, no?
post #2208 of 2580
I just wanted to say that is beautiful. Great work, sir.
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Originally Posted by shanetrudell View Post

As a bespoke casemaker my perspective is admittedly biased, but I will offer it anyways.
...
Below is an example of a wonderful case, filled with customizations to perfectly suit the life and style of a bespoke client. Full suede lining, organization pockets, multiple interior sleeves, trolley strap and newspaper pocket, wrap handle, shoulder strap and pad, London Tan with contrast stitch, contemporary proportioning and the Italian-made Clock Lock. I believe we spent two months collaborating on this design and completely achieved the clients goals.



post #2209 of 2580
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Originally Posted by razl View Post

I just wanted to say that is beautiful. Great work, sir.
agreed
post #2210 of 2580

It's certainly very nice. But I find cases with straps like that annoying when I want to get something out quickly. I had a D & G  one with a single big strap that I gave away for that reason. It looked great but was not user friendly.

 

The easiest to use are ones like the Berluti Deux Jours mentioned above. It zips at the top so you can easily get your papers in and out.  

post #2211 of 2580
That is the great trade-off. Makers who use the bridle leather and other things that will last for a century don't like to rely on flimsy little zippers. Too bad-- I am impatient and disorganized. So much as I like the idea of that tan bag, it's a Clegg bound-edge zip-top for my Christmas this year. biggrin.gif

Maybe some day I'll get my brain around the Marcellino fastener, which could be a useful compromise. Or just accept that I move too slowly to stress about buckles.
post #2212 of 2580
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

That is the great trade-off. Makers who use the bridle leather and other things that will last for a century don't like to rely on flimsy little zippers. Too bad-- I am impatient and disorganized. So much as I like the idea of that tan bag, it's a Clegg bound-edge zip-top for my Christmas this year. biggrin.gif

Maybe some day I'll get my brain around the Marcellino fastener, which could be a useful compromise. Or just accept that I move too slowly to stress about buckles.

 

That's a fair point.

post #2213 of 2580

I love checking out this thread every so often to see some really good original work, but i got to say there are some really and i mean really true hack makers on here that think they offer something better than SAB or Hermes.  Are you kidding?

 

Take this hack leather guy above me who out right took my Hampton Combination lock, put it on the same style of briefcase as i do and posts it on this forum without any acknowledgment to me, as if he is some special original creator better than SAB, when he is nothing more than these dime a dozen leather guys who are feeding at the bottom of the barrel.  Have some dignity and be original.

 

i didn't create this classic briefcase form or some of the other locks we all use, but I have made THE MOST variety of them and have MANY original styles, closing mechanisms, and particular attributes to the way i build and when someone is going to copy it they can at least be man enough to acknowledge it.

 

I was the first EVER and only one to install the "clock lock" on this style of briefcase.  I tested it and installed it many times to this classic briefcase form as an alternative to the key lock that everyone is using.   http://marcellinony.com/modern-locks and here is the products page http://marcellinony.com/product-category/combination-locks/

 

In fact "clock lock" is MY wording.  These guys troll my website and posts on here, directly rip my words and styles and re-post comparing themselves as alternatives to great companies like LV or Dunhill.  I've met many of the SF members in real life and made cases for them through the years and they are not that stupid to believe this hack forger and the old "your money goes to that brand identity" routine that every crappy low quality un-original "bag maker" is parroting. 

 

You are a faker and whoever is carrying your briefcase carries an inferior replica of the Marcellino Hampton Clock Lock Briefcase. Nothing unique about it.

 

@Concordia - from a maker's perspective, i highly recommend a Clegg bag, one of the best original leather makers we have in America today.  If its worth anything, my hat goes off to him.  I've seen his work through the years, and it is phenomenal quality and the way he installs zippers on these thick leather bags is an art-form, something that is difficult to do and why most stay away from them. 

post #2214 of 2580
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Originally Posted by JP Marcellino View Post
 

I love checking out this thread every so often to see some really good original work, but i got to say there are some really and i mean really true hack makers on here that think they offer something better than SAB or Hermes.  Are you kidding?

 

Take this hack leather guy above me who out right took my Hampton Combination lock, put it on the same style of briefcase as i do and posts it on this forum without any acknowledgment to me, as if he is some special original creator better than SAB, when he is nothing more than these dime a dozen leather guys who are feeding at the bottom of the barrel.  Have some dignity and be original.

 

i didn't create this classic briefcase form or some of the other locks we all use, but I have made THE MOST variety of them and have MANY original styles, closing mechanisms, and particular attributes to the way i build and when someone is going to copy it they can at least be man enough to acknowledge it.

 

I was the first EVER and only one to install the "clock lock" on this style of briefcase.  I tested it and installed it many times to this classic briefcase form as an alternative to the key lock that everyone is using.   http://marcellinony.com/modern-locks and here is the products page http://marcellinony.com/product-category/combination-locks/

 

In fact "clock lock" is MY wording.  These guys troll my website and posts on here, directly rip my words and styles and re-post comparing themselves as alternatives to great companies like LV or Dunhill.  I've met many of the SF members in real life and made cases for them through the years and they are not that stupid to believe this hack forger and the old "your money goes to that brand identity" routine that every crappy low quality un-original "bag maker" is parroting. 

 

You are a faker and whoever is carrying your briefcase carries an inferior replica of the Marcellino Hampton Clock Lock Briefcase. Nothing unique about it.

 

@Concordia - from a maker's perspective, i highly recommend a Clegg bag, one of the best original leather makers we have in America today.  If its worth anything, my hat goes off to him.  I've seen his work through the years, and it is phenomenal quality and the way he installs zippers on these thick leather bags is an art-form, something that is difficult to do and why most stay away from them. 

 

Do you hold any patents on those designs/trademark on "clock lock", etc.? 

post #2215 of 2580
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Originally Posted by JP Marcellino View Post

I love checking out this thread every so often to see some really good original work, but i got to say there are some really and i mean really true hack makers on here that think they offer something better than SAB or Hermes.  Are you kidding?

Take this hack leather guy above me who out right took my Hampton Combination lock, put it on the same style of briefcase as i do and posts it on this forum without any acknowledgment to me, as if he is some special original creator better than SAB, when he is nothing more than these dime a dozen leather guys who are feeding at the bottom of the barrel.  Have some dignity and be original.

i didn't create this classic briefcase form or some of the other locks we all use, but I have made THE MOST variety of them and have MANY original styles, closing mechanisms, and particular attributes to the way i build and when someone is going to copy it they can at least be man enough to acknowledge it.

I was the first EVER and only one to install the "clock lock" on this style of briefcase.  I tested it and installed it many times to this classic briefcase form as an alternative to the key lock that everyone is using.   http://marcellinony.com/modern-locks and here is the products page http://marcellinony.com/product-category/combination-locks/

In fact "clock lock" is MY wording.  These guys troll my website and posts on here, directly rip my words and styles and re-post comparing themselves as alternatives to great companies like LV or Dunhill.  I've met many of the SF members in real life and made cases for them through the years and they are not that stupid to believe this hack forger and the old "your money goes to that brand identity" routine that every crappy low quality un-original "bag maker" is parroting. 

You are a faker and whoever is carrying your briefcase carries an inferior replica of the Marcellino Hampton Clock Lock Briefcase. Nothing unique about it.

@Concordia - from a maker's perspective, i highly recommend a Clegg bag, one of the best original leather makers we have in America today.  If its worth anything, my hat goes off to him.  I've seen his work through the years, and it is phenomenal quality and the way he installs zippers on these thick leather bags is an art-form, something that is difficult to do and why most stay away from them. 

Those are pretty heavy accusations, I believe SAB has been using the round lock since many years ago or are you upset about people using your description?
post #2216 of 2580

@PCK1- no. it's not a legal thing, more like an artist integrity thing

 

@letsi - that lock he is using is not the "SAB" key lock I'm talking about which has been installed by many for over 100 years.

 

I'm talking about my combination clock lock and putting it on this classic briefcase style and yes I'm upset when these hacks copy me without credit. 

 

post #2217 of 2580
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post

Do you hold any patents on those designs/trademark on "clock lock", etc.? 

^^ this

Next time you create something original - protect it!
post #2218 of 2580

I like to lock but surely you don't have to do the combination every time you want to open the thing?

post #2219 of 2580
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Originally Posted by Dandy Wonka View Post
 

I like to lock but surely you don't have to do the combination every time you want to open the thing?


no you don't. you set it and forget it. it stays open. you set your own time that you will remember as the combination.

 

here are a few videos to show in real life

 

 

post #2220 of 2580
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Originally Posted by JP Marcellino View Post
 

 

Take this hack leather guy above me who out right took my Hampton Combination lock, ...

 

...

 

I was the first EVER and only one to install the "clock lock" on this style of briefcase.  I tested it and installed it many times to this classic briefcase form as an alternative to the key lock that everyone is using.   http://marcellinony.com/modern-locks and here is the products page http://marcellinony.com/product-category/combination-locks/

 

In fact "clock lock" is MY wording.  These guys troll my website and posts on here, directly rip my words and styles and re-post comparing themselves as alternatives to great companies like LV or Dunhill.  I've met many of the SF members in real life and made cases for them through the years and they are not that stupid to believe this hack forger and the old "your money goes to that brand identity" routine that every crappy low quality un-original "bag maker" is parroting. 

 

You are a faker and whoever is carrying your briefcase carries an inferior replica of the Marcellino Hampton Clock Lock Briefcase. Nothing unique about it.

 

 

Some really serious allegations here. It seems that you have an entitlement to the creative or intellectual rights for this hardware component, though I'm not sure how this can be. I purchased these locks direct from the manufacturer, the Italian hardware company MMC di Colombo, and the lock is patented by them, under this explicit website category: 

 

http://www.mmcolombo.it/en/products-catalogue/patented-articles.html

 

JP's language is deliberately deceptive, not to mention his allowance of SF members to suggest that his was a failure to properly protect his creative property. In fact, he has none at all.

 

If JP's other suggestion is that it is his procurement of the latch that is novel and here-imitated, I would charge him for pettiness if it were true, but this is also false. I first found the MMC Clock Lock suggested by the Japanese hand-stitch bag maker TRUNK (http://tenui-kaban.jp/leatherbags.html). TRUNK freely shares information, running a school to teach techniques, as well as publishing books, highlighting various techniques as well as materials and suppliers. TRUNK understands bespoke business are about relationships, not a particular piece of metal or leather. Clearly, JP feels differently - that somehow his procurements are proprietary? They are certainly fully branded as his own.

 

In the Japanese text "The Book of Dulles Bag Making" published October 2013, (http://www.bestfromjapan.com/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=19790), sits the following page which I've photographed from my copy:

 

 

 

Here, referred to as the "Clock Lock" and recommended for the traditional English bridle case. So not only did JP Marcellino not create the lock, JP Marcellino is not the creator of this application. The casemaking/leatherworking supplier Countless River (http://www.countless-river.com/br_Lock.html) carries this lock (Clock no.1) right beside the standard round Liston so often used for these cases, clearly offered as a direct alternative for the same application. Looks like with the current exchange any of you too could have this lock for about 90 bucks. Though you'd have to face the vitriol of JP for some reason, perhaps his prices reflect his non-existent process of invention? 

 

This lock is neither a secret, nor a novel application, and not even remotely the creative genesis of JP Marcellino. The nomenclature is not only unoriginal by JP, but also just obvious - it's literally a clock lock, by which one locks their case via setting a time on the clock face. However, the claims JP Marcellino has made are clearly deceitful and slanderous and I seriously question the remainder of the artistic integrity he so righteously flaunts here. For JP, his claims about this lock seem central to his business - for me, this is just another component I use, a lovely one, along with other materials, techniques, and design ethics to create for my clients an expression of their needs in the language of the case. I'm happy to pass on the above sources to anyone who might make use of it.

 

I leave judgement to the community, but I think we are all owed an explanation to the source of JP Marcellino's deceitful and wrong-proven claims, and that I am owed an apology for his vitriolic insult of my craft and my business. I have no idea how he could defend his outright lying though, so perhaps instead we will just hear how he invented the "New York Awl" and the "Brooklyn Blade" and all other cutters-and-stitchers of leather cases are hack and imitator.

 

Cheers,

Shane Trudell

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