or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › ***SW&D Photography Thread***
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

***SW&D Photography Thread*** - Page 58

post #856 of 988
Quote:
Originally Posted by no frills View Post
 

 

I rotate pretty consistently every week or two depending on what photography learning objective I'm exploring, but my daily carry is a Leica SL Typ 601 with a Noctilux 50mm f/0.95 ASPH mounted semipermanently on it.


Sweet!

 

So what is your take on that "Unique Leica Look"?

You still have to MF with the Noctilux, right? This sounds like an incredible dumb question, but i haven't read the Reviews yet, and perhaps Leica found a way to AF with the Manual lenses... :D

post #857 of 988
Quote:
Originally Posted by globobock View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by no frills View Post
 

 

I rotate pretty consistently every week or two depending on what photography learning objective I'm exploring, but my daily carry is a Leica SL Typ 601 with a Noctilux 50mm f/0.95 ASPH mounted semipermanently on it.


Sweet!

 

So what is your take on that "Unique Leica Look"?

You still have to MF with the Noctilux, right? This sounds like an incredible dumb question, but i haven't read the Reviews yet, and perhaps Leica found a way to AF with the Manual lenses... :D


Not a dumb question at all. All the M lenses are manually focused using the standard focusing ring. Aperture control right at the tip.

Even with the modern digital SL or the M-P typ 240, I actually shoot all manual - manual ISO, shutter speed, aperture and focus by definition since I use M lenses. Well, technically I use auto WB.

I don't disdain AF and other modern conveniences. But just like any tool, I choose which ones serve my needs, which inspire me, based on the situation I'm photographing. Often it's my Leicas, for sports and dance performances it's my Canon, though I've shot sports performances using my Leica M's too - photojournalists used to cover wars using manual/film Leicas, after all.

For macro/close up shots of watches I want to share ASAP, I often use my iPhone! smile.gif
post #858 of 988








Yashica T4 super / ilford delta 400
post #859 of 988
Quote:
Originally Posted by globobock View Post

 

So what is your take on that "Unique Leica Look"?

 

I am not sure it's that "unique" - by which I interpret as "impossible to replicate using other systems."  Really, using the best glass from the Canons, Nikons, Fujis. Sonys etc of this world, with knowledge of lighting techniques and/or access to external lighting implements (or controlled studio environments), I think it's quite possible to replicate that dimensionality, depth, sharpness and separation of subject from the foreground/background that tends to characterize "the Leica look."

 

I think what DOES distinguish Leica systems and glass is that it can still generate that "look" with available natural light, with incredible edge to edge sharpness, even when shooting wide open.  And it gives folks like me a whole lot of joy to think that we were able to nail the 'look' with a minimum of accessories - just me and the camera, really.  Which is not to say that shooting with a Fuji X100T or Sony A7R ii + 35mm f/1.4 can't do the same thing - it's the Samurai, not the sword.  But no matter what gear one uses, the question is - do you know how to use it, have you mastered it, are you motivated to go out and shoot and make time to learn new techniques?  Does the gear inspire you to push the boundaries of exposure, composition, and improve as a photographer?  


Leica does all that for me, and that justifies its price/value given my personal preferences/situation. Might not work for others. 

post #860 of 988

Since you mention that the T-Mount of the SL allows re-use of the R-lenses...

 

I have to admit that I just found out from you about the new SL. Reading in some German Forums, People mention that their M-mounted lenses don't work as well on their SLs (or on their A7xx), as in less general sharpness, softer edges or more off-focusses. How come? Does the EVF not work as well with the Ms?

 

I can't imagine that the sensor-lense combinatiuon would make that muc a difference. After all, both the M(9/240) and the SL are mirrorless FFs.

post #861 of 988
The distance between the glass elements and the sensor is an important factor, that can really screw things up especially on edges for wider lenses
post #862 of 988

A user at a German photographieforum explained to me that the M-Series had microlenses applied at the sensor to specifically enhanced the Performance of the M-mounted lenses. Thus the lesser Performance IQ-wise if you use M-Lenses on non-M cameras.

 

I still have to dig deeper on this Topic.

post #863 of 988
Quote:
Originally Posted by globobock View Post

A user at a German photographieforum explained to me that the M-Series had microlenses applied at the sensor to specifically enhanced the Performance of the M-mounted lenses. Thus the lesser Performance IQ-wise if you use M-Lenses on non-M cameras.

 

I still have to dig deeper on this Topic.


In the beginning I thought the same; that my M lenses appeared to perform better on my M bodies versus the SL.

However, after a few hundred shots on the SL + M lens combination I found that I really couldn't tell the difference, especially after going through my usual workflow in Lightroom. I didn't have to process my images any more or less on M bodies versus the SL. And unless I truly subjected it to Sean Reid-level testing, pixel peeping at the center and edges over months, I no longer believe that my M lenses perform any less well on my SL.

The EVF of the SL is a magnificent thing of beauty. You've got to look through it to appreciate it. It's incredible. People who found it challenging to focus the Noctilux at f/0.95 and 3.3 feet found that they don't even need the 5x magnification to nail critical focus.

I suspect that any differences perceived can be chalked up to subjective preferences. Like the tired old debate when Leica switched from a CCD to a CMOS sensor. Now the SL (and the medium format S line, as well as the Q) uses the Maestro II processor, versus the M's Maestro I processor. Are there real differences? Probably. But the real question is whether you can work around it, or make it work for you. I use my M's and my SL - and my Q and my X-U, and my Canon 5DMk3 - depending on what I plan to photograph, for specific occasions and situations, and for whatever I feel like. I get different forms and levels of joy when I use different gear, but what ultimately matters is the image and the emotion.

Happy to talk technical differences but at the end of the day I simply make the gear work for me, and I'm pretty happy with the current kit. Which is not to say that I've been happy with all of my choices - for example the Sony RX100 mk3 didn't work for me. But that's another story...
post #864 of 988

Thx no frills,

 

Nice resume.

 

In the end, it really depends on the "actor". Nevertheless, the technical side is always an interesting part.

post #865 of 988
you can read about it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance
using an M lense requires an adaptor which often times shifts this distance.
post #866 of 988

Been shooting much lately @the shah ??

 

Next thing to learn is BW developing and printing. Trying to work out if I can develop at home.

post #867 of 988
unfortunately i've been in winter hibernation mode plus bogged down with other projects, but planning on starting as of this weekend. gonna go walk around with just my camera. hoping for a productive start ! i need to get shutter counts up high enough to justify any other purchase, but at this point it's just G.A.S. whispering in my ear. minimal setup is all i need *repeats to self*

I think developing bw at home is quite simple enough, you should have no problem. not sure about printing, i tend to ask around for good shops to handle that part.
post #868 of 988

There's a darkroom at the school I'm working at, so I've asked the art teacher in charge if he'll show me how to develop. We'll see if he's generous.

 

This is my first non-Australian winter and, I have to say, it sucks so much creative energy. Finally there's sun (sometimes) and it's great to see things looking good again.

post #869 of 988

Anyone been to a really good artist lecture? I'm going to see Bruce Davidson speak in Kansas City and I'm super excited

post #870 of 988

I really miss shooting film. Need to improve myself and get a better job to afford it. Or win the lottery.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Streetwear and Denim
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › ***SW&D Photography Thread***