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post #76 of 141

Wow cheap shots much people.

You all seem to think that if a combo looks like dirt on your droopy ass it must be banned for everyone.

 

If you can pull it off then damn well own it I say. Fuck your inhibitions. 

post #77 of 141
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

I'm hoping for a centralized thread to which we can refer n00bz who commit some egregious offense against traditional menswear. This can be used as a reference whenever somebody says, "what's wrong with black shirts?!?" Here's what I've got so far:

- square-toed shoes
- matching tie and pocket square sets
- black suits
- black odd trousers
- black or any other dark shirts
- jackets that don't cover your rear end
- ties worn without jackets

Anything else?

This should be reserved for truly awful stuff, not venal and controversial offenses like navy odd trousers or gray odd jackets.

Nothing wrong with black suits, odd trousers, black (or dark) shirts or ties worn without jackets.

Thus this idea is doomed from the start.

In any event define and more importantly DATE tradition. You cannot and life evolves else we would be wearing ruffs and powdered wigs! They were traditional in their era.
post #78 of 141
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

I'm hoping for a centralized thread to which we can refer n00bz who commit some egregious offense against traditional menswear. This can be used as a reference whenever somebody says, "what's wrong with black shirts?!?" Here's what I've got so far:

- square-toed shoes
- matching tie and pocket square sets
- black suits
- black odd trousers
- black or any other dark shirts
- jackets that don't cover your rear end
- ties worn without jackets

Anything else?

This should be reserved for truly awful stuff, not venal and controversial offenses like navy odd trousers or gray odd jackets.

 

Similarities to a war rally I think

 

 

post #79 of 141
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Originally Posted by GBR View Post

Nothing wrong with black suits, odd trousers, black (or dark) shirts or ties worn without jackets.

Thus this idea is doomed from the start.

In any event define and more importantly DATE tradition. You cannot and life evolves else we would be wearing ruffs and powdered wigs! They were traditional in their era.

Well said. Some great photos out there of Humphrey Bogart in black suits. And the "no tie without jacket" rule is just bizarre.
post #80 of 141
Thread Starter 
Agjiffy - stop being a penis about this square toed thing. Everybody knows what is meant by square toed, and the GCs you posted do not fall under that definition. The fact that they technically have angled edges at the toe is besides the point. If you don't understand that, go park your car on the parkway.

Gus - Flusser recommends pairing different patterns in the same scale! Matching similar patterns on similar scale might make the list.

Somebody who didn't like my scarf - you can like it or not, but it does not fall afoul of any SF rules, and has the finest SF pedigree.


I should explain better the purpose of the thread - it's not even necessarily what's wrong or right or what "can't work" vs "can when done right." Consider it a list of what would be called out in a negative way immediately if posted on WAYWRN or suggested in a "what I'm thinking of wearing to X event" thread. Rather than create a separate thread, I'll just keep updating the OP.

Here's another for discussion - all solid colored silk squares, excepting white and cream. foo.gif
post #81 of 141
Its important to distinguish between Clusterfucks and merely Not Ideal.

Square toed shoes, giant or novelty tie knots, tie with no jacket, black shirts with a suit/jacket--these are clusterfucks. The wrong number of vents on a tux, suits without a tie, while these may drive some or even most of us nuts, I don't think they are the right thing for what Unbel is proposing. There can be argument about them. There can be no argument that a black shirt with a suit looks atrocious.

Of course, now that I have said that, 30 noobs are going to try to convince us that black shirts are actually great "when done correctly".
post #82 of 141
Thread Starter 
For example, tie no jacket will immediately be condemned as the cell phone salesman look in any CM thread.

In this case I happen to agree. It looks unfinished and juvenile. I never take my jacket off in the office either, but I understand many do. But it's kind of beside the point. Just trying to document consensus.
post #83 of 141
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post


Here's another for discussion - all solid colored silk squares, excepting white and cream. foo.gif

I think I could get behind that. They always look like something that would come with a shitty tux rental.
post #84 of 141
Thread Starter 
Sinatra was known to wear solid orange ps with his tux, but I don't think it looked good even on him.
post #85 of 141
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Originally Posted by GBR View Post



In any event define and more importantly DATE tradition. You cannot and life evolves else we would be wearing ruffs and powdered wigs! They were traditional in their era.

False reductio ad absurdum.

post #86 of 141

Sadly this is all probably doomed to failure, on the basis that the "it's all subjective, fvck you acridsheep" crowd will shower the thread with sh*t.

 

Having said that:

 

 

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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Its important to distinguish between Clusterfucks and merely Not Ideal.

 

Agreed.

 

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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post


Of course, now that I have said that, 30 noobs are going to try to convince us that black shirts are actually great "when done correctly".

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post #87 of 141

After reaching some consensus, are we going to provide some explanation for each?

post #88 of 141
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

After reaching some consensus, are we going to provide some explanation for each?

sure, that would be ideal. Even links to old threads with explanations would be good
post #89 of 141
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

After reaching some consensus, are we going to provide some explanation for each?

It is heresy to question, especially when the answer is to avoid looking like a waiter or other member of the service industry, the scourge of the planet so it seems... confused.gif
post #90 of 141
Thread Starter 
Again, the point of the thread is not to browbeat people into following the SF rules. It's to document consensus and provide some explanation for it.
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