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The walnut seems too light for a charcoal or navy suit.

 

Dark brown or black seems to be the safest. Bourbon may be dark enough, though I have not seen that color in real life.
 

post #18 of 34
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Hello all, Long time reader first time poster- I'd like some advice as I'm about to graduate from college and enter the working world and would really appreciate your collective knowledge...

 

Currently, I have a boxy pair of cordovan (the color) blucher Eccos, a pair of black blucher Bostonians (akin to these, without the stitch cap)

 

 and tan Johnston & Murphy loafers.

 

I tentatively plan on getting two suits MTM from suitsupply (would BB MTM on sale be better?), one mid grey, one navy, and I'd like to get shoes to wear with them, in business casual settings, at night, and with jeans (these are all separate instances). I have two suits now, a charcoal faint pinstripe RLBL and subtle windowpane Armani Collezioni, neither of which are 100% interview-appropriate.

 

I was looking at AE shoes, and I thought I would get a pair of brown oxfords to round out my rotation, since I already have a serviceable black shoe (not the most formal, but that will come later). Although I was attracted to the Larchmont and other bluchers at first, now I am most interested the more formal balmorals. I'm leaning towards getting the walnut McAllisters to go with these suits along with the other settings I mentioned. Should I buy a brown Strand first, and as a second get the McTavish or McAllisters in walnut?

 

Thanks for the help

 

I was in the same position recently and sought the advice on these forums and didn't listen (completely). Against most recommendations, I went with the walnut McAllisters but absolutely love them. However, they are a bit more flashy than one might need for certain occasions. This is why some, while loving the shoe and color, recommended a darker color and only the walnut as an "extra" shoe. They stand out much more but I don't regret it at all. However, when they went on sale recently I also ordered a pair in Merlot. I figured this is a nice in-between black and walnut. The browns are nice (bourbon and other browns offered in the Strand and McAllister) but they are a little boring for my taste and too similar to the walnut; albeit darker. I'm looking at a pair of McTavish next for something more casual.

 

Bottom line (for me anyway), I like a little more flashy and I can get away with it in my line of work. Yours may differ. If you think you can, go with the walnut McAllisters as they are beautiful. If not, perhaps a brown Strand or consider the merlot color in the McAllister.

 

There is also a huge Allen Edmonds appreciation thread on these forums that I didn't notice until after I started this one. You might want to post questions there as lots of people read that thread.

post #19 of 34
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The walnut seems too light for a charcoal or navy suit.

 

Dark brown or black seems to be the safest. Bourbon may be dark enough, though I have not seen that color in real life.
 

 

Perhaps for charcoal but I've worn them with navy and they look great. You can find some good image samples if you Google. As for the bourbon, I've seen it in stores and it's certainly nice. However, it just is a little boring to me. With the walnut you get the variation in color in the brogue which I think makes it stand out nicely. The McAllister is offered in merlot or bourbon and in the Strand brown or bourbon (unless you want to place a custom order).

post #20 of 34

For CBD, the AE walnut is not a good color for navy. There is too much contrast.

 

The AE walnut should probably be reserved for mid-grays at the darkest. I think Manton has a good thread on shoe purchases that should be consulted.

post #21 of 34

I think Navy is great with Walnut, a bit more conservative with Bourbon. 

 

Merlot from AE..just too red for me.

 

Black.  Well, I have made it without ever owning a pair of black shoes.  Walnut, Cognac, dark browns, Bourbon, tan, oxblood.  Never black.  There are too many amazing brown shoes out there to own black.  Every time I think I might buy black, there is a brown that wins. 

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I think Navy is great with Walnut, a bit more conservative with Bourbon. 

 

Merlot from AE..just too red for me.

 

Black.  Well, I have made it without ever owning a pair of black shoes.  Walnut, Cognac, dark browns, Bourbon, tan, oxblood.  Never black.  There are too many amazing brown shoes out there to own black.  Every time I think I might buy black, there is a brown that wins. 

 

I'm at this point now. My current crappy black shoes are old and many say one doesn't need black. What do you wear with say a charcoal or black suit?

post #23 of 34

Manton's Streamlined Shoe Wardrobe Thread:

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/338954/streamlined-shoe-wardrobe

post #24 of 34
^Don't wear black suits. If you must, then you are right, you need black shoes. With charcoal, merlot and dark brown look good.
post #25 of 34
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^Don't wear black suits. If you must, then you are right, you need black shoes. With charcoal, merlot and dark brown look good.

 

I'm not particularly sure why I have a black suit. Maybe because I thought I needed one for formal but not black tie affairs or a funeral. I do wear my charcoal suit often so I'm thinking those merlot McAllisters that are on the way will be paired up with that one. 

post #26 of 34

I would wear walnut with a black suit, but not in the evening or to a funeral.   I guess I would wear something ultra-dark brown.  FYI, I do not own a black suit, and wear any brown with Charcoal suits.

 

Evening wear:  Blue velvet loafers?rimshot.gif

post #27 of 34

Thanks for the feedback all -

 

I agree that a brown might be too boring. I am definitely going to go walnut McTavish or McAllister as my second shoe purchase... I just don't think I can get away with it at first in my line of work.

 

Instead of the Strand, though, I've become attracted to these Meermins:

 

 

I think they're more subtle than the strands, probably good for CBD. What do you all think of the color above, is it more conservative than walnut? and how about the Meermin brown vs. the Allen Edmonds brown?

 

Meermin brown:

 

 

 

AE brown:

 

post #28 of 34
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Thanks for the feedback all -

 

I agree that a brown might be too boring. I am definitely going to go walnut McTavish or McAllister as my second shoe purchase... I just don't think I can get away with it at first in my line of work.

 

Instead of the Strand, though, I've become attracted to these Meermins:

 

 

I think they're more subtle than the strands, probably good for CBD. What do you all think of the color above, is it more conservative than walnut? and how about the Meermin brown vs. the Allen Edmonds brown?

 

Meermin brown:

 

 

 

AE brown:

 

 

Where did you find those Meermins? I'm looking at their website and don't see that exact model. The color of those Meermins may be slightly darker than AE walnut but it could also be that it is less decorative so it just seems more conservative. I haven't seen the Meermins in person.

post #29 of 34
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post #30 of 34
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Originally Posted by squalidozzi View Post

Thanks for the feedback all -

 

I agree that a brown might be too boring. I am definitely going to go walnut McTavish or McAllister as my second shoe purchase... I just don't think I can get away with it at first in my line of work.

 

Instead of the Strand, though, I've become attracted to these Meermins:

 

 

I think they're more subtle than the strands, probably good for CBD. What do you all think of the color above, is it more conservative than walnut? and how about the Meermin brown vs. the Allen Edmonds brown?

 

Meermin brown:

 

 

 

AE brown:

 

That first shoe is basically the same color as AE walnut, and marginally more conservative than the Stands, but I still wouldn't call it a consevative shoe.

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