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Totally accurate. Chinese Americans have a thing against Korean Americans, and vice versa.

I hear that Chinese people believe Koreans to be a cross between squirrels and monkeys.
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Explains why I'm so nimble and prone to flinging feces.
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It's been a few years. Is this ruling good or bad?
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It's been a few years. Is this ruling good or bad?

Depends if you're a minority or not (excluding Asians).
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It's been a few years. Is this ruling good or bad?

Glad to see you have such a refined taxonomic system for sorting through the consequences of complex decisions.
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Depends if you're a minority or not (excluding Asians).

Glad to see you subscribe to venal, unprincipled self-interest.
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Glad to see you have such a refined taxonomic system for sorting through the consequences of complex decisions.

So I can put you down as one vote for "good?"
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So I can put you down as one vote for "good?"

B-
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Good thing I already got into and then failed out of college; both of my ethnicities would have worked against me.
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An exploration of some of the flaws in the majority's reasoning (or, more cynically, Anthony Kennedy's excuses for doing whatever he wants to do):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/06/23/dangerous-implications-of-todays-supreme-court-ruling-upholding-racial-preferences-at-the-university-of-texas/
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Found this letter, written in 1969 regarding Yale Law School's initiation of affirmative action in their admissions policies. It is amazing how prescient the author was in his predictions. He pretty much nailed it.



"The immediate damage to the standards of Yale Law School needs no elaboration. But beyond this, it seems to me the admission policy adopted by the Law School faculty will serve to perpetuate the very ideas and prejudices it is designed to combat. If in a given class the great majority of the black students are at the bottom of the class, this factor is bound to instill, unconsciously at least, some sense of intellectual superiority among the white students and some sense of intellectual inferiority among the black students. Such a pairing in the same school of the brightest white students in the country with black students of mediocre academic qualifications is social experiment with loaded dice and a stacked deck. The faculty can talk around the clock about disadvantaged background, and it can excuse inferior performance because of poverty, environment, inadequate cultural tradition, lack of educational opportunity, etc. The fact remains that black and white students will be exposed to each other under circumstances in which demonstrated intellectual superiority rests with the whites.


No one can be expected to accept an inferior status willingly. The black students, unable to compete on even terms in the study of law, inevitably will seek other means to achieve recognition and self-expression. This is likely to take two forms. First, agitation to change the environment from one in which they are unable to compete to one in which they can. Demands will be made for elimination of competition, reduction in standards of performance, adoption of courses of study which do not require intensive legal analysis, and recognition for academic credit of sociological activities which have only an indirect relationship to legal training. Second, it seems probable that this group will seek personal satisfaction and public recognition by aggressive conduct, which, although ostensibly directed at external injustices and problems, will in fact be primarily motivated by the psychological needs of the members of the group to overcome feelings of inferiority caused by lack of success in their studies. Since the common denominator of the group of students with lower qualifications is one of race this aggressive expression will undoubtedly take the form of racial demands–the employment of faculty on the basis of race, a marking system based on race, the establishment of a black curriculum and a black law journal, an increase in black financial aid, and a rule against expulsion of black students who fail to satisfy minimum academic standards."


Full text of the letter (and the dean's response) here:


http://www.nationalaffairs.com/doclib/20080522_197001904theblackquotaatyalelawschoolmacklinfleming.pdf
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^ are you claiming that the letter was prescient when it comes to Yale Law or about academia in general?
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^ are you claiming that the letter was prescient when it comes to Yale Law or about academia in general?


A bit of both.

The letter from 1969 certainly was spot-on in predicting the situation at Columbia Law when I was there in the early 1990's.
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Interested to hear what folks think of this link: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/the-painful-truth-about-affirmative-action/263122/


One of the better articles I've seen on affirmative action.

It gives me some hope that The Atlantic is willing to publish such a frank assessment.
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