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post #241 of 440
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Moreover, this is not a secret. Harvard and other universities don't hide the fact that they follow affirmative action policies. They are explicit that race and ethnicity are factored into the equation for the purposes of establishing "diversity." Nobody ever said they were rejecting Asians en masse because they lack non-quantifiable merit.

With respect to Asians, I don't think this is quite right. When challenged on their asian quotas, the responses Ive seen from university officials got something like "we value more than just the purely academic qualities in our student body." The implicit meaning being those non-academic qualities occur in much lower frequencies among the asian applicants.

No one has come out and said we're artificially capping the asians at 20% of the class in the name of diversity--they've been denying it vehemently with the weak-ass excuse above.
post #242 of 440
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post

With respect to Asians, I don't think this is quite right. When challenged on their asian quotas, the responses Ive seen from university officials got something like "we value more than just the purely academic qualities in our student body." The implicit meaning being those non-academic qualities occur in much lower frequencies among the asian applicants.

No one has come out and said we're artificially capping the asians at 20% of the class in the name of diversity--they've been denying it vehemently with the weak-ass excuse above.

You are right. They cannot say: "We are capping Asians at X% because of our affirmative action policy." That would mean admitting to racial quotas that every proponent of affirmative action pretends don't exist. So, they leave it vague when asked about a specific race. They do the same when asked about black students who have significantly lower scores and academic performance: "We value more than academic qualities, blah, blah, blah."

The really perverse implication of NorCal's racism is that one's quantitatively immeasurable merits as a college applicant are inversely proportionate to his test scores and GPA, as he takes for granted that every student is evaluated for holistic merit the same way across all races, ethnicities, genders, etc. That would mean that black students and latino students, and most of all, eskimos, have exponentially more innate, immeasurable qualities than their white counterparts, to say nothing of Asians, who by that reasoning are nothing but goddamned robots.
Edited by mafoofan - 3/23/13 at 9:28am
post #243 of 440
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

A poorer showing for the Jews than I expected. Maybe people just really like seeing lights around their neighborhood at Christmas time.

Maybe they don't have orthodox neighbors? It only take a few incidents of their driving their minivans like go karts to think they're the worst neighbors ever...
post #244 of 440
As someone who celebrated his 50th birthday in a U. of Texas-Austin undergrad Latin class (while his wife forgot it), let me tell you that you all are barking up the wrong tree. The stats that matter for co-eds are the "vital" ones. Show me a picture of that little hussy and I'll tell you whether or not she should have been made a tea-sip. As for the guys: who cares? They're just fine with their caps screwed on backwards, wearing shower-shoes and cargo shorts and backpacks to class. Any race or grade will do just fine for the clueless, it don' matter. satisfied.gif
post #245 of 440
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Originally Posted by Spats View Post

As someone who celebrated his 50th birthday in a U. of Texas-Austin undergrad Latin class (while his wife forgot it), let me tell you that you all are barking up the wrong tree. The stats that matter for co-eds are the "vital" ones. Show me a picture of that little hussy and I'll tell you whether or not she should have been made a tea-sip. As for the guys: who cares? They're just fine with their caps screwed on backwards, wearing shower-shoes and cargo shorts and backpacks to class. Any race or grade will do just fine for the clueless, it don' matter. satisfied.gif

How much have you had to drink today? Be honest.
post #246 of 440
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

How much have you had to drink today? Be honest.
You got me: 3 cups of coffee, fact, as is the rest of it.
post #247 of 440
Spats is the native English speaking version of scarphe. I have no fucking clue what the point of their posts are.
post #248 of 440
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Originally Posted by Bhowie View Post

Spats is the native English speaking version of scarphe. I have no fucking clue what the point of their posts are.

HAHAHAHA !
post #249 of 440
The supreme court has agreed to hear an appeal from the marvelous 6th circuit decision that a state outlawing affirmative action is unconstitutional. Stopping discrimination in favor of minorities is discrimination against minorities, at least according to the sixth circuit.

http://www.volokh.com/2013/03/25/supreme-court-to-consider-michigan-affirmative-action-ban/

http://www.volokh.com/2012/11/15/en-banc-sixth-circuit-voids-michigan-civil-rights-initiative/
post #250 of 440
You don't happen to have a copy of the 6th circuit decision, do you? I have to admit I'm pretty curious about what their reasoning would be.
post #251 of 440
http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/12a0386p-06.pdf
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COLE, Circuit Judge. A student seeking to have her family’s alumni connections
considered in her application to one of Michigan’s esteemed public universities could
do one of four things to have the school adopt a legacy-conscious admissions policy: she
could lobby the admissions committee, she could petition the leadership of the
university, she could seek to influence the school’s governing board, or, as a measure of
last resort, she could initiate a statewide campaign to alter the state’s constitution. The
same cannot be said for a black student seeking the adoption of a constitutionally
permissible race-conscious admissions policy. That student could do only one thing to
effect change: she could attempt to amend the Michigan Constitution—a lengthy,
expensive, and arduous process—to repeal the consequences of Proposal 2. The
existence of such a comparative structural burden undermines the Equal Protection
Clause’s guarantee that all citizens ought to have equal access to the tools of political
change. We therefore REVERSE the judgment of the district court on this issue and find
Proposal 2 unconstitutional. We AFFIRM the denial of the University Defendants’
motion to be dismissed as parties, and we AFFIRM the grant of the Cantrell Plaintiffs’
motion for summary judgment as to Russell.

That sounds like a bad joke, but it really is the opening paragraph of the opinion.
post #252 of 440
That can't be serious.
post #253 of 440
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/12a0386p-06.pdf
That sounds like a bad joke, but it really is the opening paragraph of the opinion.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. The equivalency is not there.
post #254 of 440
No links but was not the basis of the reversal that the legislation prohibited people from lobbying to get AA re-instituted? I remember thinking that was stupid and the law should have just made it illegal and stopped there.
post #255 of 440
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

No links but was not the basis of the reversal that the legislation prohibited people from lobbying to get AA re-instituted? I remember thinking that was stupid and the law should have just made it illegal and stopped there.

No. I think you are confused because the opinion talks about lobbying. What it says is that they could get a de facto affirmative action policy for white people (it doesn't actually say that, but that's the insinuation) by way of a legacy admissions policy -- by passing a law-- you know, legislature votes, governor signs, the usual thing. Or even by lobbying the admissions board or whatever band of fools comes up with the admissions policies.

On the other hand, this was an amendment to the state constitution banning regular affirmative action. You can lobby all day long for racial preferences for minorities, but the admissions boards and the state government can't do anything about it.

It's easier to get preferences for white people (not that that they exist, mind you, but that it would theoretically be easier to get them -- like if racists had mind control or something). That's what's supposed to be unconstitutional.
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