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post #166 of 440
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I can top that--I have a GED. Only did two and a half years of high school.

Well, as you were kidding around with the ACT vs. SAT I was kidding around here. Ontario had a 13th grade when I was going to secondary school.
post #167 of 440
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So if G is highly heritable, which apparently is a non-controversial statement per the research, and G is highly predictive of SAT score, Obama was right. You didn't build that.

LOL, g factor is the kind of obviously bullshit science claims that our children (yes, even your low g factor ones) will get to have a good laugh at. The pathetic human need to attempt to quantify everything. Honestly what I say is irrelevant because views in that area are almost 100% correlated to sociopolitical views (with a few people being along the ride for the racism) so....

Oh and:
"Intellectuals don't ask if something is right or wrong, but whether a policy is efficient or inefficient. They don't ask if a measure is good or bad, but whether or not it improves productivity."
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Is this one of those trick questions where you have to ask the honest man and the liar one question to find your way home?

I'm saying it isn't about g, not g or whatever, we can skip that part and go directly to political opinions and morality because it determines belief in these specific "scientific" matters.

Statements like these make me think that bridging the gap between humanities and the sciences is a futile effort. So much for interdisciplinarity.
post #168 of 440
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Well, as you were kidding around with the ACT vs. SAT I was kidding around here. Ontario had a 13th grade when I was going to secondary school.

Well now I feel bad for sharing.
post #169 of 440
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Well now I feel bad for sharing.

Sorry, brah, but I got your back. fistbump.gif
post #170 of 440
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post

Thats not really what happens. I think the number of blacks and hispanics scoring 1500+ on the SAT is quite low. Not enough to make a dent in the class of any elite school- and such a score would allow a kid in either of those groups to write their own ticket.

Many whites and asians with 1500+ SATs are denied from the top schools, however.

Admissions at top schools engineer their classes backward. They start with a rough idea of the percentage class composition fitting into certain categories such as race, athletics, flyover state representation, and a few more. The applicants are then scored relative those buckets.

The son of a potato farmer from utah is not being scored against the asian girl from Massachusetts.

One of the most amazing things about the Asian quota is how consistent it is on a year to year basis.


Holistic admissions are one thing, but its hard to believe that they could do something like this w/o there being a separate Asian wait list (i.e. when one Asian turns down offer go to the Asian wait list to fill the spot).
post #171 of 440
Yale really nipped that in the bud.
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As a curve-breaking Chinaman (sic), I take pleasure in seeing your GPAs and test scores.
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As a curve-breaking Chinaman (sic), I take pleasure in seeing your GPAs and test scores.
I thought you were an English Lit. professor
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I went to Japan to get some g and left with four pairs of used Pokemon panties instead. FML.
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Yale really nipped that in the bud.

It's very reassuring when institutions keep a nice ambiance and tradition going, away from THESE people.
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They're following the Quebec model. Very progressive.
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40% Asians at CalTech biggrin.gif
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One of the most amazing things about the Asian quota is how consistent it is on a year to year basis.


Holistic admissions are one thing, but its hard to believe that they could do something like this w/o there being a separate Asian wait list (i.e. when one Asian turns down offer go to the Asian wait list to fill the spot).

[Should note this data is from a long, highly tendentious and often dubious, but still thoroughly interesting Ron Unz article the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/ ]
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I thought you were an English Lit. professor

I am. But my inner Chinaman still comes through every now and then; my GRE math and analytical scores were higher than my verbal (although not in terms of percentile).
post #180 of 440
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[Should note this data is from a long, highly tendentious and often dubious, but still thoroughly interesting Ron Unz article the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/ ]

Regarding his commentary on asians, Unz is right on. In any case, that chart is put together from official data.

It would be very interesting if we could layer that enrollment chart over a chart on applications by race. But guess what, all the schools stopped publicizing that dataset shortly after they instituted their asian quotas (and subsequently got sued.)

Unz article veers into highly speculative (and probably wrong) territory when he starts talking about jewish enrollment. Andrew Gelman has a pretty convincing takedown on his blog should anyone have an interest in getting into the weeds..
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