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How did it take so long for people to figure out that this is actually a dude?



Fallon Fox is bracing herself for controversy, and as the first on-record transgender female fighter in mixed martial arts, she's going to get plenty of it.
On Monday, the 37-year-old Fox (2-0) revealed exclusively to SI.com that she's a transgender fighter -- the first on record, male or female, to compete in the combat sport. Fox won her second professional bout with a 39-second knockout (via knee) last Saturday at Championship Fighting Alliance 10 in Coral Gables, Fla.
Fox, who underwent gender reassignment surgery in 2006 along with the supplemental hormonal therapy, is scheduled to fight again for the CFA on April 20 in the semifinals of its eight-woman featherweight tournament. However, Fox's license approval is now under investigation with Florida's Dept. of Business and Professional Regulation.
"Our department is currently investigating allegations pertaining to the information provided on [Fox's] application," wrote Sandi Copes Poreda, Director of Communications for the DBPR, which oversees the Florida State Boxing Commission.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mma/news/20130305/fallon-fox-transgender-mma/#ixzz2NHP2wNuS
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I saw this a bit ago.
I know they're talking about hormone regulating so that it wont have an unfair advantage but it still seems like a no go for me.

She's apperantly got her eye on joining the UFC.

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To be fair, I think Caster Semenya has upended the business of gender identification in athletes lately, but even as far back as the 70's women T&F athletes (East Germans for instance) have looked rather unwomanly. So from that perspective it's made folks reluctant to point fingers.
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There's Renee Richards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards




This will get weird when a major sport has a tran athlete that becomes a champion.

For me, you can chop off and grow what you want, but your body strength matches that of the sex you were born. You should play for whatever team you were born as.
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For me, you can chop off and grow what you want, but your body strength matches that of the sex you were born. You should play for whatever team you were born as.

With Male to Female transition nothing is 'chopped off'. The tissue is re-assigned. This is why the surgery is called SRS (Sex Re-assignment Surgery) or alternatively GRS (Gender Re-assignment Surgery).
If you take bloodwork from a trans woman, I assure you that the results will be Female.
The reason for this is called HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy). HRT is two-fold. In Male-To-Female, Testosterone blockers are taken each day to essentially stop or block Testosterone production. Then, estrogen is taken to replace the male hormones with female hormones.
This, in turn results (over time) with reduced muscle mass, breast growth, and new fat distribution, notably on the hip and buttocks area.
For all intents and purposes, the Male-To Female transistion results in a male bodied person becoming, in every way medically possible, into a female.
Remember, this gender identity began in the brain..in the hypothalamus gland. It was involuntary in Trans people.
And to the curious, as a result of the SRS (or GRS) surgery, the Trans woman can enjoy both penetrative vaginal sex and also an 85% orgasm rate, which is actually statistically higher than in CIS (or natal) women.
Here is just one vodeo showing the actual surgery...but I warn you, it is extremely graphic and not for sensitive viewers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vKT4JEcDc
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Here is just one vodeo showing the actual surgery...but I warn you, it is extremely graphic and not for sensitive viewers.

I'll pass on the vid, thanks.

You'll be taking these drugs for the rest of your life, AKAIK when you stop you're back to being a dude again so you make it seem permanent but its not because your genes will always say your a dude. In addition, you're reproductive system will always be that of a male, as well as facial and body hair.

As far as this notion of gender identity, gender is genetic. I've never heard the word gender identity until the recent past. This subjective identification has never made sense to me. We're all too PC now to question the premise of gender identification, so I'll let the sleeping dog lie.
Edited by idfnl - 3/18/13 at 5:21am
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As far as this notion of gender identity, gender is genetic. I've never heard the word gender identity until the recent past. This subjective identification has never made sense to me. We're all too PC now to question the premise of gender identification, so I'll let the sleeping dog lie.

Technically sex is genetic, gender is more behavioral/psychological traits associated with masculine or feminine (which may be determined by multiple factors, with genetics being a possible one).
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Technically sex is genetic, gender is more behavioral/psychological traits associated with masculine or feminine (which may be determined by multiple factors, with genetics being a possible one).

Distinction without a difference, but I get your point.
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