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post #91 of 142

A few heavy handed DH's would clean up the thread. Yeah, the graffiti will be on the wall the next morning for the first week or so, but eventually people will go elsewhere. The recent burst of good but not great fits in Good Taste has both hurt that thread as well as WAYWRN. It would be nice to see a few of the more obvious "mis-fits" migrate back over to WAYWRN.

 

I'm not saying that Good Taste > WAYWRN (though I'll say it now...it generally should be when the fits are averaged out), but WAYWRN has looser strictures and benefits from people exploring those broader boundaries. As is, there are simply way too many "how does this look/does this fit me" first time posters in that thread now.

 

Anyway...a shift from Machiavellian to Draconian (homeboy knew how to wear a toga) would be nice.

post #92 of 142
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

I did that for while, it's sooooo much work. It's like cleaning the wall every day, and you know that overnight the taggers will be back and cover it in graffitti and you have to start all over. Now, if the building were a historical landmark in Indiana limestone, it might be worth it. But as it is, I don't care enough any more.

In addition, deleting actually can make everything harder. People get angry and PM you for deleting their perfect pic, other members who saw it want to know why it was gone, it causes a lot of hard feelings and everyone thinks they are owed and explantion.

I was just formulating the law, which is true. make of it what you will.

The counter example is Vox's Subjective and Totally Unfair thread. It stayed on topic while there were willing editors. Instead of trying to weed out the chaff, consider making a weekly digest of Manton's Approved but Completely Arbitrary Ensembles (TM). Once you embrace and demonstrate the fact that you will answer to no one, the whiners will go away (or at least fall on deaf ears).
post #93 of 142
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

John O'Sullivan, peripatetic editor and intellectual, once formulated "O'Sullivan's Law". It states that any organization not explicitly right wing will eventually become left-wing. The examples bearing this out are too numerous to mention.

To this I add Manton's Law of SF Threaks: any thread--even if it explicitly excludes certain looks and seeks to promote certain other looks--will in short order become a WAYWRN free-for-all.

Corollary: The more anyone tries to reassert the initial purpose, the more furious and insistent the counter-offensive.

You know, if you did your job in WAYWRN, you wouldn't need all the legislation. smile.gif
post #94 of 142
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

Yes, typically. The British way makes more sense.

From the standpoint of formal logic, I agree, the British punctuation style for quotations makes more sense. But it is ugly and inelegant. And this is America (fuck yeah). At any rate, E.B. White -- in many ways the Manton of American English, very prescriptive and very opinionated, but often wise -- favored the American style.

On the subject of the '96 Accord, I feel obligated to say that it was my first car. I would still be driving it to this day if a tree hadn't fallen on it some 12 years ago, crushing it like, well, like something crushed by a tree. I loved that car.

(It was a coupe, not a sedan).
post #95 of 142
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But it is ugly and inelegant.

Wut?

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On the subject of the '96 Accord, I feel obligated to say that it was my first car. I would still be driving it to this day if a tree hadn't fallen on it some 12 years ago, crushing it like, well, like something crushed by a tree. I loved that car.

(It was a coupe, not a sedan).

Never mind. That explains it.
post #96 of 142
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

The counter example is Vox's Subjective and Totally Unfair thread. It stayed on topic while there were willing editors. Instead of trying to weed out the chaff, consider making a weekly digest of Manton's Approved but Completely Arbitrary Ensembles (TM). Once you embrace and demonstrate the fact that you will answer to no one, the whiners will go away (or at least fall on deaf ears).

But Vox left.
post #97 of 142
Vox who?
post #98 of 142
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

Periods and commas are placed within the quotation marks, again, for American English.
Sorry. We all have our obsessions.
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Originally Posted by NOBD View Post

I've never understood that. British English is outside, like in your "this is not" examples?
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Originally Posted by Big Texas View Post

From the standpoint of formal logic, I agree, the British punctuation style for quotations makes more sense. But it is ugly and inelegant. And this is America (fuck yeah). At any rate, E.B. White -- in many ways the Manton of American English, very prescriptive and very opinionated, but often wise -- favored the American style.
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(It was a coupe, not a sedan).


All of you are wrong and make for extremely inept Grammar Nazis.
The divide isn't between British and American systems. In both countries, both systems are used. The system called "logical punctuation" is slightly more prevalent in Britain, although both systems are widely used. If you go to a newspaper stand, you'll see one paper using the "logical" system, and another using the "inside" system. Incidentally, "outside"/"inside" are misleading labels for the respective systems. The logical system just as often places the punctuation on the inside of brackets/speech marks as it does on the outside -- it depends on the sentence; it's something you have to learn. The so-called "American" system is just a simplified version of the logical system, and it lacks the subtlety and flexibility of logical punctuation.

@Big Texas: your last sentence (in brackets) is incorrectly punctuated according to both systems. Congratulations on that.
post #99 of 142
Asking a question is wrong? confused.gif
post #100 of 142
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

I have a 1996 Accord! Not tricked out though.


And I thought for sure that you have a Prius.
post #101 of 142
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Originally Posted by acridsheep View Post

Don't be retarded. Truly wealthy people drive practical cars like this quite frequently. The suburban middle class dad, his dollar already stretched to the extreme, is the one who buys the luxury car.

My love for Manton has swelled with this additional piece of information.

This is very true. My brother purchased a MB in 2002 for 72k and recently traded it in and was shocked that he only received 9k for the trade in. He now realizes he pissed 60k down the drain. He is happy with his Toyota Avalon hybrid now!!

Cars are a horrible investment. In fact they are not an investment at all, just an expense...overhead.
post #102 of 142
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Originally Posted by Dempsy444 View Post

I find the members to be very knowledgeable about bespoke with a lot of experience. They have fewer members but those who are members tend to weigh in with good comments and feedback. The content to noise ratio is much better on LL than SF. To Manton's point one has to comb thru hundreds of idiotic comments to get to a kernel of content on SF.

LL tends to be more Puritan about "only bespoke" and you can tell the core group leans heavily to heavy English cloth. In this sense it is much more restricted than SF. Not too many members post pics of their commissions on LL so it's rare to see examples of work.

Well, the good (and bad) posters on LL also post here but isn't odd to say on the one hand how knowledgeable and experienced everyone there is and how you glean much better info from there and then on the other hand say, but no one posts any examples of their commissions?

It's great to know the inner workings of how handmade garments are made, the names of different buttonholes and differences in regional styles but if when you put pen to paper, it comes out looking the way some of it does, what is the point?

At the end of the day, dressing up is not like taking the SAT, there are no points for knowledge. You either dress tastefully or you don't. The rest is all mental masturbation for the internet.
post #103 of 142
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Well, the good (and bad) posters on LL also post here but isn't odd to say on the one hand how knowledgeable and experienced everyone there is and how you glean much better info from there and then on the other hand say, but no one posts any examples of their commissions?

It's great to know the inner workings of how handmade garments are made, the names of different buttonholes and differences in regional styles but if when you put pen to paper, it comes out looking the way some of it does, what is the point?

At the end of the day, dressing up is not like taking the SAT, there are no points for knowledge. You either dress tastefully or you don't. The rest is all mental masturbation for the internet.

It isn't that no one posts pictures. There are just fewer posts and fewer pictures. But to be honest, your post makes it sound like you aren't that interested in bespoke tailoring (which is fine), but I can understand why you wouldn't like the LL. This board is undoubtedly a better place to go if you want to see a lot of pictures of people trying to put together a decent outfit. And the noise doesn't seem to bother you. These are just different boards serving different purposes.
post #104 of 142
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Originally Posted by Xiaogou View Post

This is very true. My brother purchased a MB in 2002 for 72k and recently traded it in and was shocked that he only received 9k for the trade in. He now realizes he pissed 60k down the drain. He is happy with his Toyota Avalon hybrid now!!

Cars are a horrible investment. In fact they are not an investment at all, just an expense...overhead.

But of course, everyone should know what real investments are: cordovan shoes, canvased jackets, seven fold ties, and cream silk pocket squares.
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post #105 of 142
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Shell does last forever. I still have a pair I got in college. I don't think they will ever die.
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