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post #76 of 211
Originally Posted by NaTionS View Post

MarkI, how long is your hair? I'm trying to do something similar but instead of staying back the front part of my hair sticks up.

Starts at probably about a 2 at the shortest, blending up to a 4, then at its longest around 5 inches. Looking forward to keeping the sides at those lengths, and having like 10 inches up top.
post #77 of 211
Going to a white tie student party tonight (I know). Going with a slicked back side part.

post #78 of 211
My whole regime is pretty simple. I have longish hair (it falls in front of my eyes at times), and I go to the gym a lot, so I can't get away with not showering. But I only use cold water on my hair, and shampoo once every week or two. I like how full it looks, and when I let it go a little too long without a shower, I tend to get a lot of compliments.
post #79 of 211
desperately need new hair inspiration
post #80 of 211
Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

Starts at probably about a 2 at the shortest, blending up to a 4, then at its longest around 5 inches. Looking forward to keeping the sides at those lengths, and having like 10 inches up top.

Thanks. Need to let my hair grow out some more, right now it's too long for any "short" styles and not long enough to do much else except throw in some wax and just let it fall.
Originally Posted by mike868y View Post

desperately need new hair inspiration

Check out some male model blogs for hair inspiration. Tumblr is good for this.
post #81 of 211
Anyone here shampoo regularly? I shampoo everyday (humid country + hair products = unhealthy if not rinsed out) and recently switched to a sulfate-free, tea-tree based shampoo (giovanni triple treat).

Kinda wierd that it doesn't lather, but my hair was more voluminous, stiffer (and also drier) the morning after.

I used to use Nisim biofactor.

Any recs?
Originally Posted by NaTionS View Post

Check out some male model blogs for hair inspiration. Tumblr is good for this.
Hommeheaven is good.
post #82 of 211
btw current hair using hairbond distorter + hair spray.

post #83 of 211
Originally Posted by Flame View Post

btw current hair using hairbond distorter + hair spray.

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How do you like the Hairbond Distorter?

Have you tried their other products and if so, how does it differ?

post #84 of 211
Have both Moulder and Distorter liked them both.

Both are similar, Distorter has less hold but a more natural matte dry finish. Moulder has a strong holder with a nice light natural shine.

Moulder is better if you want a single product, but I like to mix and match. Distorter however is better for messier looks bc its more flexible.

P.S. I should be buying Shaper soon:

Strongest hold! Maybe should be awesome for slick-back styles.
post #85 of 211
The thing with wax and clay is that it is stupid hard when working with it to get into hair and IME everything gets stuck to your hair if you do not wash your hair daily with shampoo.

TBH I do like wax and clay, then something like B&B sumotech, and followed lastly by water soluble pomade. However, as I said, the former 2 are just really high maintenance and I feel like it thins and drys out my hair even more.
post #86 of 211
Thinking of going to a free workshop by Biotherm.

Feeling mad metro.
post #87 of 211

Just got a hair cut, a bit drastic but I think it'll look real good once the sides grow out in a couple weeks.

post #88 of 211
Yeah, it will look better in two weeks or so. Been there myself.

I think it pretty much always looks better with a smoother fade starting lower on the sides, like Flame's haircut. That way, the upper width balances out the jawline and makes your face look slimmer. Still, it should be cut very short right around the ears.

This doesn't apply to that slick comb back style Bows, Art and the asian model above has.
post #89 of 211
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good posts from the lifestyle -> health & body section of this forum
Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Ok people, I have been doing a lot of research about hair and reading a lot of blogs and forums that girls post in. I am reading forums and blogs written by and for primarily curly, or wavy haired girls and I have learned a ton. CalTex, this will probably be useful for you. Basically I have been looking for a haircare routine that allows my hair to be more natural and controlled so I don't have to use as much product in the morning and such. Something a bit easier. This is what I learned:
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1. Stop shampooing with sulfate based shampoo.
The majority of shampoos are made with detergents and not actual soap. These ingredients are sodium lauryl sulfate, sodium laureth sulfate, amonium lauryl sulfate, or amonium laureth sulfate. These were invented by the Germans during World War II because there was a soap shortage. These synthetic surfactants are what makes these products "foam-up". Basically they allow water and oils to mix so they can be rinsed away. There is a lot of hippy talk about these things and how they cause cancer, but it has never been proven. There are some things that have been proven, however. Sulfate based shampoos are a mild irritant, espcially in higher concentrations and if not rinsed properly. Sulfate based shampoos cause hair to fall out. If you loose a lot of hair in the shower, this could be the cause, not male pattern baldness. Sulfate shampoos strip your hair and wash away all natural and unnatural oils. These things are great at what they do and they are cheap that is why they are in products. The problem is you are washing away tons and tons of oils that your hair needs to look great. The ironic thing is many of these shampoos also have extracts of plant oils and moisturizers, but in reality it is bullshit because as soon as you lather up you're washing it right away. Most of the cheaper brand smoothing shampoos are using silicones to coat the hair to make it smooth. Some of them work ok, but they are very difficult to remove once on your hair, that is why they are usually added to the smoothing shampoos along with sulfates, which have a more difficult time removing them.

Now a lot of conditioners also contain smaller amounts of sulfates so read your ingredients.

A lot of brands are now making sulfate free shampoos so look for them, there is a brand called Kinky Curly that curly haired girls "in the know" go apeshit for. Get this. The issue most people have with these are the lack of foam, since there isn't any foaming agent people feeltheir hair isn't getting clean. Ignore this and keep at it. A lot of girl's out there make their own shampoo out of a simple home mixture of baking soda and water. Some swear by this.

I personally use Dr. Bronner's Tea Tree Castile Soap, which bings me to my next point about sulfates and soaps. Castile soap is what it is: Soap. It is called castile after the region it was developed in Spain and it is obtained by saponifying oils from plants using lye to create soap naturally. Here is the issue, using these kinds of soap, especially with very hard water sources with minerals and such in it can leave your hair feeling tangly and or waxy. What this is is slight buildup. This buildup can remain on your hair and furthermore in your tub and in your drains, this buildup is what people end up calling "soapscum". Sulfates don't have this because they strip everything away, however there is a solution for this. The solution lies in the conditioner, which is my next point:

2. Use an acidic rinse after using castile soap
You can use the non-sulfate conditoner if you are using a non-sulfate shampoo, but for castile the Dr. Bronner's Shikakai Conditioning Rinse works wonders. Since you washed with castile you need to get the buildup off of your hair and make it smooth. You do this with a solution that is slightly acidic. Acidic solutions don't only just strip buildup they also close the shafts of your hair strands making it lay better and much smoother. A lot of girls make their own apple cider vinegar and water solution and pour it slowly over their heads while massaging their scalp and combing it through their hair in the shower. The Bronner's Rinse is mainly lemon juice, shikakai powder, which has been used on hair for centuries in India and plant oils. Now vinegar has a PH of about 5 and the lemon juice about 2 or 3 so you can imagine the smoothing properties these ingredients have on your hair.

3. Stop shampooing your hair so much
Yes, a lot of people know that their hair feels nicer, or behaves better when it isn't dry from shampoo (sulfates), but these girls, and now myself included, are shampooing even more infrequently like only when really needed, around once every two or three weeks. Two are three weeks!?!?! You scream! Calm down. Girls who go the sulfate free conditioner route literally condition everyday, but what they do is scrub the hell out of their scalps while the conditioner is in their hair, not using their nails but their fingertips and very hard and long time. What others do it use their rinse daily and scrub with the vingear/water, or Bronner's rinse. What is great about this is the low PH kills bacteria that can cause dandruff and the scrubbing helps move dirt away.

I understand this all sounds strange and gross, but it isn't really. There are so many girls following this routine. Think Style Forum, but only girls talking about this kind of stuff. It was all started by this woman Lorraine Massey in NYC who popularized this sulfate-free/no shampooing thing in her salon and actually wrote a book about it.

What I do:

1) Shampoo with Dr. Bronner's Tea Tre Oil Castile soap
2) Repeat
3) Pour the solution of Dr. Bronner's Conditioning Rinse over my head and massage scalp and comb through hair
4) Rinse
5) Repeat step #3 and leave in and finish the rest of my shower routine before rinsing

On following days I just do steps #3 through #5 and only go back to step #1 when absolutely necassary.


Originally Posted by AndrewDoesHair View Post

Hi, official hair thread, my name is Andrew.

I've spent 10 years focusing on perfecting men's hairdressing, I've made several youtube videos on the topic of styling hair (admittedly, they have poor editing and quality, but I assure you they're rich in content), I teach cutting, styling, and marketing men's hair at a few local cosmetology and barber colleges, and I am in the process of working with a few other masters of their trades (a barber and a graphic designer) to create a line of custom formulated hair styling products. I've experienced what I'd consider a tremendous response to my Instagram page (@andrewdoeshair), where I find myself answering many of the questions I see a lot of you guys asking on this forum, too. If you'd allow me, I'd love to share some of what I know about hair.
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Forum help vs stylist help
If you're asking the forum "how long should this cut be?" or especially "exactly how long should this haircut be?" then you need to find a new hairdresser. Imagine a scenario where a friend asks you why you like your hairdresser, and all you can say is "Oh, she's the best, because when I ask for 2 inches, she cuts it EXACTLY 2 inches..."

When a client asks me to cut his hair 2 inches, I point out the door and tell him how to find great clips. Not really... But what I do, as a professional who offers his experience and expertise on top of the actual act of performing a haircut, is ask the client "well what do you want your hair to do?" because it's not a client's job to know what his hair will do at 2 inches long, it's MY job to know that. If your friend has fine hair that he slicks back, and it's cut 2 inches long, you need to understand that you do not want a 2 inch long haircut to slick back your coarse thick hair (it'll spike up, at that length)! You are to tell your hairdresser/hairstylist/barber what you want your hair to do, and then they tell you how long it has to be. Use descriptive words. Messy, neat, jagged, slick, clean, grungy, tight, tall, dry, not measurements!

Telling your hairdresser you want to cut 2 inches is the equivalent of telling your personal trainer you want to lift 20lbs. I will repeat, you are to describe the look your desired results, and then trust your stylist to give you what you need in order to achieve them.

Need to find a better stylist? Go sit at the mall and wait until you see someone with great hair. Flag them down. Ask them where they go. If you can just walk in, there is a great chance you're not going to the best stylist! If a stylist asks you "how long do you want it?" then walk out.

The first thing you need to unlearn is that product should control or hold your hair. This is learned while we are in Jr. high, and we use Garnier or Axe to glue up our hair. Be better than the axe! Wash the product out of your hair and then follow these steps with me...

Wet hair is neutral. If you comb it forward, it stays forward, but only until you comb it sideways- then it stays sideways. But only until you then comb it back... You get the idea. Wet hair goes wherever the external forces will it to go.

Hair comes out of neutral and shifts into drive by applying heat. The heat (whether by flat iron, curling iron, or blow dryer) will make the hair pliable, and wherever it sits as it cools is where it will stay, product or no product. Heat your hair in small sections (I like to start in the back) using a good blow dryer (I trust Solano) and also use a brush to pull your hair where you want it (up, beck, sideways, forward, wherever). Your hair WILL stay where you put it, by doing this. Even if you mash it down with your hand afterward, it'll bounce right back up. And if you have wavy hair, brushing it straight while you blow dry it can remove the curl (ask your girlfriend- she's been doing this to her hair for years!)

This was done with ONLY a blow dryer and a brush. There is NO product at all in here....

All you want to expect from your hair product is a finish. You'll use it to stick the hair together, and to glue down those light fly-aways, but the biggest job of the product is to turn the "fluff" into whichever type of finish you'd like. product will also shrink down your blow dry, so blow dry your hair bigger than you want it. You can remove volume with product, but you can't easily add it with product.

Matrix beach clay provides a dry and pliable finish. It doesn't get hard or flake. I rub it very thin on my fingertips, apply it to the root first, then pull it through to the ends, so that the majority of the product will support the root of the hair, and not weigh down the ends. A similar product would be Redken Rough Clay, and another good dry product is Redken Rough Paste. This is what Beach Clay looks like on blow dried hair.

For that wet and clean look that is popular lately, I still recommend a blow dry before adding product, and I strongly recommend not using any wax or oil based products. When you coat your hair in wax or oil, it is put into a state of semi-permanent wetness, which can take a week or so to get out of your hair, and it will remain in "neutral" no matter how much you blow dry or flat iron it, and then you are left with only the styling power of the wax itself (which pails in comparison to what a blow dryer can do for your hair). For these wet looks I recommend a water based pomade, because it'll easily rinse out when you're done. A few good ones are Redken Polish up, which is very shiny and not very dense, and Imperial Classic Pomade, which is slightly less shiny and very very dense and heavy (my favorite). These were styled with a blow dryer, and then Imperial classic pomade...

post #90 of 211

^ matrix beach clay looks good

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