or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Anna Matuozzo - A walk-through of my bespoke shirt purchase in Napoli.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Anna Matuozzo - A walk-through of my bespoke shirt purchase in Napoli. - Page 3

post #31 of 262
Thanks for the report and pics! I have quite a few shirts from Anna and they are by far exceeding any other shirt I have in terms of quality and fit. Nowadays I order over e-mail. Anna and Simona are great to deal with.
post #32 of 262
If you paid for a fully handmade shirt from Anna, make sure it is fully handmade. The long seams should be stitched over by hand and the collar should be attached by hand stitches. If not, you have the semi-handmade version, which they sell for much less money.

Marco--if I recall, 250 euros for a shirt is about what you'll pay at Anna's for a shirt with hand-stitched sleeve attachments and buttonholes, with other random bits of hand finishing. The higher 400 euro price is for a fully hand-stitched shirt (collar, long seams, etc.). I'm not sure who else in Naples is doing that. Certainly not for 250 euros. If you know of anyone, I'd love to hear about it.
post #33 of 262
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gusvs View Post

Thanks for the report and pics! I have quite a few shirts from Anna and they are by far exceeding any other shirt I have in terms of quality and fit. Nowadays I order over e-mail. Anna and Simona are great to deal with.


Gus-

No problem!

It was a good experience for me to learn about the process.  I think I am a much better judge of bespoke shirts now that I have a shirt from Anna.  

 

Incidentally - I have a friend (former exchange student) who lives in Stockholm who will be coming to visit us here in Napoli this spring!  Let me know if you need anything "smuggled" back to Sverige!

post #34 of 262
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

If you paid for a fully handmade shirt from Anna, make sure it is fully handmade. The long seams should be stitched over by hand and the collar should be attached by hand stitches. If not, you have the semi-handmade version, which they sell for much less money.

Marco--if I recall, 250 euros for a shirt is about what you'll pay at Anna's for a shirt with hand-stitched sleeve attachments and buttonholes, with other random bits of hand finishing. The higher 400 euro price is for a fully hand-stitched shirt (collar, long seams, etc.). I'm not sure who else in Naples is doing that. Certainly not for 250 euros. If you know of anyone, I'd love to hear about it.


I was thinking the same thing- that if she discounted the shirts she may have made the machine-sewn models to balance the profit/work ratio.  But I just don't now for sure so I can only say that I'm sorry he did not get the same satisfaction as I did with my Anna shirt. 

post #35 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post


I was thinking the same thing- that if she discounted the shirts she may have made the machine-sewn models to balance the profit/work ratio.  But I just don't now for sure so I can only say that I'm sorry he did not get the same satisfaction as I did with my Anna shirt. 

Did you check that yours are fully hand-stitched? Look at the collar attachment and the long seams down the sides of the shirt.
post #36 of 262
Thread Starter 

Machine-sewn on both.  I didn't expect that those would be hand sewn.

post #37 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

Machine-sewn on both.  I didn't expect that those would be hand sewn.

PM sent.
post #38 of 262
Also, check that they didn't start fusing your collars and cuffs.
post #39 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

If you paid for a fully handmade shirt from Anna, make sure it is fully handmade. The long seams should be stitched over by hand and the collar should be attached by hand stitches. If not, you have the semi-handmade version, which they sell for much less money.

Marco--if I recall, 250 euros for a shirt is about what you'll pay at Anna's for a shirt with hand-stitched sleeve attachments and buttonholes, with other random bits of hand finishing. The higher 400 euro price is for a fully hand-stitched shirt (collar, long seams, etc.). I'm not sure who else in Naples is doing that. Certainly not for 250 euros. If you know of anyone, I'd love to hear about it.

Matt,

I told u already that you pay a sum for 8 standard Neapolitan hand details (this cost roughly 25 euro extra per shirt/ you would save that amount if you did not want them) and you will pay a bit extra if you want te 15 plus hand details as Kiton or the few more of Anna. Please note that all the hand details are "ribattiure" or second pass, so for example the long seams are first passed by machine then hand felled by hand, the colla is first closed by machine the closed in the others side by hand and some time other reinforcing stitching also done by hand. As far as I have heard, the very basic one only have 2-3 hand details and at 250 euro there is plenty of options in Naples.

Ciao
post #40 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

Matt,

I told u already that you pay a sum for 8 standard Neapolitan hand details (this cost roughly 25 euro extra per shirt/ you would save that amount if you did not want them) and you will pay a bit extra if you want te 15 plus hand details as Kiton or the few more of Anna. Please note that all the hand details are "ribattiure" or second pass, so for example the long seams are first passed by machine then hand felled by hand, the colla is first closed by machine the closed in the others side by hand and some time other reinforcing stitching also done by hand. As far as I have heard, the very basic one only have 2-3 hand details and at 250 euro there is plenty of options in Naples.

Ciao

This process of ordering hand details like they were off an extra value meal menu is ruining my romanticized notion of what ordering a shirt is like in Naples.

confused.gif
post #41 of 262
Marco, first of all, Anna's 250 euro shirt does not include only two or three hand details. You get hand-stitched sleeve attachments, buttonholes, pick-stiching over the yoke and collar, bar tacking at the sleeve gauntlet and bottom of the side seams, and partial hand-stiched reinforcements of the shirt placket. Yes, I understand "hand-stitched" long seams are first machine-sewn before being lapped with hand-stitches--I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, though. As for the collar attachment--you are wrong. There is no machine stitching on it in Anna's fully handmade shirt.

As for whether a 400 euro shirt from Anna is worth it compared to others in Naples: look at the simple math. If you select all the hand-sewn options at another competent shirtmaker in Naples, how much will it cost you all-in? Maybe somewhat less, but 400 euros is not a ridiculous price. Whether you want all those features is a separate matter.

The other thing to keep in mind is that shirtmaking, like tailoring, is not a simple commodity. It's not just a matter of checking off features and options. Anna is a fantastic fitter. I've heard others in Naples say her prices are crazy, but there is no doubt she has an artful way of cutting a shirt. Perhaps you will discount my experiences as an outsider, but I've seen what I've seen.
post #42 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

This process of ordering hand details like they were off an extra value meal menu is ruining my romanticized notion of what ordering a shirt is like in Naples.

confused.gif

Better not to romanticize it. You'll get bamboozled.
post #43 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Better not to romanticize it. You'll get bamboozled.

Panico offered me a cup of coffee once and I waxed poetic about it for like 5000 words.
post #44 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

Panico offered me a cup of coffee once and I waxed poetic about it for like 5000 words.

I know what you mean. I remember the 2007 me.
post #45 of 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

Machine-sewn on both.  I didn't expect that those would be hand sewn.
wow. seriously?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Classic Menswear
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Anna Matuozzo - A walk-through of my bespoke shirt purchase in Napoli.