Originally Posted by chogall
...while oxfords has the vamp seam descending to the welt.
Sorry, I don’t want to derail this thread too much, but it is ultimately a thread about selecting shoe styles, so I think it is somewhat appropriate to discuss style definitions.
I know I have already learned more about the difference between a punch cap and a quarter brogue in this thread thanks to Manton and chogall.
Although the “Handmade Shoes for Men” book is not the definitive book of men’s shoes it does discuss the Oxford and suggests that John Lobb created the first modern day example of an Oxford (top of page 61) with a picture of a shoe with a seam between the vamp and the quarter descending to the welt.
However, the seam is never discussed as the definer of an Oxford, and a few pages later (bottom of page 73) in the boots section, it states that “It is possible for designers to vary the plain Oxford boot in may ways:…”. The accompanying picture is of a Balmoral style boot with diagonal side lacing.
The boot in the picture, on page 73, is clearly a bespoke boot, but it seems to be paying homage to the Oxonian half boot that the Oxford was derived from.
With John Lobb being credited with the modern day Oxford, I decided to see what they considered an Oxford. Below is the John Lobb Ilford “Ilford is a 6-eyelet prestige oxford. This style features a beautiful butterfly design on quarters. This design is enhanced by a straight and punched toe cap.”:Edited by glenjay - 3/20/13 at 1:29pm