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post #136 of 273
I agree with Manton on burgundy calf. I never see good examples even on EG's or Lobbs. Shell is the way to go.

I need some loafers. Thanks for the suggestion of loafers in mink suede. They would make an elegant look with flannels or jeans. I'm heading into SF right now and will try on a pair of them, maybe the Lobbs.
post #137 of 273

I love oxblood calf.  I actually prefer it to burgundy shell.  I enjoy shell in dark, medium brown and whiskey-tan tones far more than in burgundy.

post #138 of 273

I would add:

 

If you air or train travel for business a lot, a pair of (metal-less) plain loafers will make your feet happy, make security happy and look acceptable if you are being met off the plane.

 

The mid brown closed lace brogue is the most pointless shoe in existence. Don't buy them.

 

Everyone should have a pair of plain black, stitch cap, closed lace shoes (aka Balmoral/Oxford). You never know when you will have an important meeting, job interview or funeral to attend, and you will never be able to get a decent pair in time if you don't have them.

 

Monks look damn good with the right outfit. With anything else, they look terrible.

 

 

Lastly, pay attention to your belt leather, especially when wearing lighter trousers. Black belts are almost always fine, but off-colour belts which don't work well with your shoes will upset the appearance of your outfit, as the nearest (and usually only) other item of leather worn.

post #139 of 273
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Originally Posted by Calder View Post

I would add:

If you air or train travel for business a lot, a pair of (metal-less) plain loafers will make your feet happy, make security happy and look acceptable if you are being met off the plane.

The mid brown closed lace brogue is the most pointless shoe in existence. Don't buy them.

Everyone should have a pair of plain black, stitch cap, closed lace shoes (aka Balmoral/Oxford). You never know when you will have an important meeting, job interview or funeral to attend, and you will never be able to get a decent pair in time if you don't have them.

Monks look damn good with the right outfit. With anything else, they look terrible.


Lastly, pay attention to your belt leather, especially when wearing lighter trousers. Black belts are almost always fine, but off-colour belts which don't work well with your shoes will upset the appearance of your outfit, as the nearest (and usually only) other item of leather worn.
I'm not sure how the metal-free loafers are helpful for airport security. Either way, you have to take them off.

Why do you think a mid-brown brogue is useless?
post #140 of 273
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

I'm not sure how the metal-free loafers are helpful for airport security. Either way, you have to take them off.

Why do you think a mid-brown brogue is useless?
Only in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
post #141 of 273
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post


I'm not sure how the metal-free loafers are helpful for airport security. Either way, you have to take them off.

Why do you think a mid-brown brogue is useless?

 


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Originally Posted by AldenPyle View Post


Only in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
 
This, to the first one. In Europe flying isn't quite as paranoid as going transatlantic. Thankfully I don't have cause to do the latter.
 
As for the mid-brown brogues, well first note I said closed lace.
 
There's no situation in which a mid-brown closed lace brogue isn't a bad choice compared to other, more versatile shoes that are similar.
 
A dark brown (or even black) closed lace brogue, a mid brown open-lace brogue, or a mid brown plain captoe are all shoes that are more versatile, look better and will benefit your wardrobe more.
 
If you have those three, there's no reason to have the m-b c-l brogue.
 
For example, Loake Buckinghams:
 

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The dark brown is lovely. The mid brown... isn't. God help you if you're wearing tan closed lace anything, in my opinion.

post #142 of 273
Wow seeing Calder explain it that way I completely agree.
post #143 of 273
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Originally Posted by Calder View Post

A dark brown (or even black) closed lace brogue, a mid brown open-lace brogue, or a mid brown plain captoe are all shoes that are more versatile, look better and will benefit your wardrobe more.

The dark brown is lovely. The mid brown... isn't. God help you if you're wearing tan closed lace anything, in my opinion.

disagree 100%

Black brogues are the least versatile shoes a man can own. They are absolutely useless.

Mid brown brogues go great with odd navy and mid gray trousers. They can be worn with navy suits as well.

as for tan oxford brogues, how about the AE strand...(semi-brogue, same difference). The walnut strand is one of the most loved shoes out there and for good reason.
post #144 of 273
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disagree 100%

Black brogues are the least versatile shoes a man can own. They are absolutely useless.

Mid brown brogues go great with odd navy and mid gray trousers. They can be worn with navy suits as well.

as for tan oxford brogues, how about the AE strand...(semi-brogue, same difference). The walnut strand is one of the most loved shoes out there and for good reason.

Agreed on the black brogues. I don't even have the inclination to buy a black punch-cap.

 

I do own the Strand in walnut, and find I don't wear it much. It is a bit too flashy for me to wear with suits. For odd jacket/trouser combinations, I tend to gravitate towards the Player's shoe in walnut (shortwing blucher) instead of the Strand.

post #145 of 273
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Agreed on the black brogues. I don't even have the inclination to buy a black punch-cap.

I do own the Strand in walnut, and find I don't wear it much. It is a bit too flashy for me to wear with suits. For odd jacket/trouser combinations, I tend to gravitate towards the Player's shoe in walnut (shortwing blucher) instead of the Strand.

I wear them most with odd trousers. I have the players too, but their torpedo shaped last doesn't work well with more formal trousers. I wear the players with jeans most often, but I do wear strands with jeans also.
post #146 of 273
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I like black punch caps. Prefer punch cap for day, stitch cap for night. Stitch cap also for interviews and such.
post #147 of 273
I definitely like black punch caps. Not as much of a "necessary" shoe as a black stitch cap for sure, but a nice shoe if you wear a lot of suits? Definitely.
post #148 of 273
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I definitely like black punch caps. Not as much of a "necessary" shoe as a black stitch cap for sure, but a nice shoe if you wear a lot of suits? Definitely.

Agreed.  Though I don't perceive the significant difference in formality as between black punch caps and black stitch caps as some here clearly do.

post #149 of 273
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

I definitely like black punch caps. Not as much of a "necessary" shoe as a black stitch cap for sure, but a nice shoe if you wear a lot of suits? Definitely.

I don't dislike them, I just have a hard time justifying buying them. I wear black shoes so infrequently that I would just use the stitch caps when I do (if I actually owned a pair, which I am working on). If I lived in London and wore black shoes every day, I would probably get some punch-caps just for the sake of variety.

post #150 of 273
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Thanks Leaves, I thought I was missing something. So it would seem that a punch cap toe is the same as a quarter brogue. I think the delineation of quarter brogue is more accurate than punch cap, so I will continue to use that. satisfied.gif

Both terms are totally acceptable. I think Europeans like me use the term brogue to a larger extent than in Northern America where they seem to use the term wingtip for what we usually call brogue (or full brogue).
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