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post #76 of 102
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Originally Posted by Scottyb06 View Post


This is true (Mall of America).  However, given the size of the mall, that's no 600 feet - more like 600 football fields!

Both on the west side of the mall though biggrin.gif

post #77 of 102
I have updated my post to include sarcasm tags...
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Originally Posted by MZhammer View Post

If it's really a law then the Rack can't technically an outlet. In MN, there is a full line store and a Rack in the same mall, about 600 feet from each other and your own quote says it was inside the original mainline Nordstrom

Agreed was going to post the same thing about Mall of America.
post #78 of 102
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Originally Posted by MZhammer View Post

If it's really a law then the Rack can't technically an outlet. In MN, there is a full line store and a Rack in the same mall, about 600 feet from each other and your own quote says it was inside the original mainline Nordstrom

 

I think I've been to the original Nordstrom Rack in D'town Seattle. I was on a business trip. It was maybe 2-3 blocks away from the original Nordstrom (sorry I can't be more specific thread fact checkers nest.gif ). It was 5-6 floors of pure goodness. Ok, maybe only 2 floors of men's stuff.
post #79 of 102
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I have updated my post to include sarcasm tags...
 

 

...gotcha fing02[1].gif

post #80 of 102
Thread Starter 

As promised, below are pix of the shoes.  Look good from above (except for the bowing). Bowing is less pronounced if they are in shoe trees.  When I'm wearing them, it looks pretty bad.  If anything, they could use some edge dressing.

 

And, re. the discrepancy about the dates bought I purchased these in Oct 12 (I had to provide receipt to AE).  Wore them pretty heavily in Nov and Dec.  By "heavily" I mean once a week. I rotate my shoes and don't wear the same pair on consecutive days. I have plenty of shoes. Didn't wear them as much in Jan and Feb. as it's been cold here, but maybe once in Jan and once in Feb (?).  Sent these out to AE in late Feb.

 

My message remains: Avoid buying AE seconds.

 

 

 

 

post #81 of 102

Bowing is a disappointing occurrence, and it's too bad these went that way for you.

 

Now, for future reference, since you evidently did not know, this mark on the sole of a  pair of Allen Edmonds signifies that they are factory seconds, meaning that they failed quality control for some reason or another. Actually, there should be no marks other than branding on the bottom of a pair of firsts.

 

 

post #82 of 102
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Originally Posted by coolarrow View Post

My message remains: Avoid buying AE seconds.

Though I am sure you are well intentioned, no one will take your factory seconds 'warning' seriously, I assure you. People will continue to buy and enjoy them. If you expect top quality, expect to pay more.
post #83 of 102
99% of AE at N Rack are absolute crap and can't believe anyone would buy. Scratches,blemishes, ugliness and all of the above. Luckily I found a 1%er spotless Independence Line shoe that gladly purchased.
post #84 of 102
have you considered you're wearing too narrow of a shoe?
post #85 of 102
AE is having huge issues with bowing lately. I've exchanged tons of pairs to get some decent ones, and still have some Park Avenues with the issue.

I'm almost embarrassed to exchange them because I've already done it once, but they really look quite ridiculous.
post #86 of 102
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

have you considered you're wearing too narrow of a shoe?

I don't think so. I have a few AE shoes and I am exclusively a 9.5D.  All fit fine.  Not really familiar with the lasts of AE but I haven't had to look into the differences in lasts since 9.5 fits fine.  Only one pair of shoes is not as comfortable (AE Jackson). The fit on that is fine only the soles seem harder than the others. Maybe it doesn't have that cork insole (?).

 

Thanks to thesizzle. I will take a detailed pix of that mark and try to put it on the first post. 

post #87 of 102
Too many whiners here who still do not understand what the term 'factory seconds' means. If you want the best of what AE has to offer, man up and pay retail.
post #88 of 102
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Originally Posted by coolarrow View Post

I don't think so. I have a few AE shoes and I am exclusively a 9.5D.  All fit fine.  Not really familiar with the lasts of AE but I haven't had to look into the differences in lasts since 9.5 fits fine.  Only one pair of shoes is not as comfortable (AE Jackson). The fit on that is fine only the soles seem harder than the others. Maybe it doesn't have that cork insole (?).

Thanks to thesizzle. I will take a detailed pix of that mark and try to put it on the first post. 

So, there was a period of time about 3 years ago, when AE switched from natural colored to black colored insoles. Those were a bit stiffer than the old ones, but after breaking in, I found them to be comparable.

It is my understanding, talking with an AE manager, that after about 6 months with the new black insoles, they redid them.
post #89 of 102
AE is certainly not at fault here as you purchased 'seconds'. However, if Nordstrom did not tell you they were seconds, I'd take it up with them. On the other hand, if you knew they were seconds at the time of purchase, you have really no reason to expect recourse. You took a chance by buying a defective product. A defective product is what seconds are.
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post #90 of 102
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Originally Posted by Man Of Lint View Post




Though I am sure you are well intentioned, no one will take your factory seconds 'warning' seriously, I assure you. People will continue to buy and enjoy them. If you expect top quality, expect to pay more.

 

...agreed. I've got 3 pairs of AE seconds, and in my estimation, they're every bit as good as the firsts that I own. 2 of the 3 pairs of seconds (Neumora and McAllister) literally had no marks or creases on them. OP either caught a tough break or (more likely) had unrealistic expectations...seems like he's wrecked a few pairs of shoes in his day.

 

The simple solution is to stop being cheap and to just buy directly from AE, where all of the return and recraft luxuries apply. You get what you pay for.

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