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Yes, i think a big reason why i love GG is that their lasts are simply stunning, regardless of width or size. I do like the leather quality more than the one pair of Carminas i had, and the Barker soles are incredibly durable. You can probably also add the finishing and burnishing work that is done to shoes of that price range as a plus.

Plenty of objective points of course, and it has surely been debated that the price difference in the better materials does not justify the 100% price difference, but as a visual person i put a decent amount of value on aesthetics alone. I have to, I work in the art field after all, if i can't put value in aesthetics then how can i expect others to do the same in what i do...
Since my work involves the brain, does that mean I should value the insoles and sockliners? dozingoff.gif@JubeiSpiegel, I'll take your aesthetic abilities any day if it comes with those PS skills!
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What's the next good Edward Green thing to have made up after this Zug and Willow business? Anyone have any unusual ideas. I suppose I will have to do some digging...

I'm saying Nevis with round apron, brown dainite, storm welt and in... Coffee suede. More of an autumn boot though, but sure it would look outstanding...
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What's the next good Edward Green thing to have made up after this Zug and Willow business? Anyone have any unusual ideas. I suppose I will have to do some digging...

 

 

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I'm saying Nevis with round apron, brown dainite, storm welt and in... Coffee suede. More of an autumn boot though, but sure it would look outstanding...

Honestly, each of you guys can do whatever you want as the EG GMTO is no more. 

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Honestly, each of you guys can do whatever you want as the EG GMTO is no more. 

Sure thing, but why not share ideas in the process...?
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Sure thing, but why not share ideas in the process...?

Oh no...I agree entirely. I didn't mean we shouldn't talk about makeups. That just usually leads to GMTO talk. 

 

A coffee suede Nevis would be bananas. 

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^ youre too humble man. if i read into your comments, you pretty much came up with the uwing design and pushed for carmina to stock the burgundy calf and then GF came along and ripped the concept away. dude is a hustler, cant fault him for that. as they say gots to get paid. gettin' paper, doin' work, hustle, yeee

The Museum Calf from Carmina was bound to happen sooner or later I think. I visit the Carmina factory at least twice a year and I usually try to challenge them a bit by suggesting new designs and requests of bringing in new materials. Sometimes they bite, sometimes not. In turn, I found the drive to persuade Carmina from drooling over John Lobb make ups over on the Leathersoul website. And the Uwing design idea was inspired by an old Edward Green style called Windsor from the 80s. The extended Adelaide and reverse Adelaide was in turn an idea that Tony Gaziano came up with. I was trying to persuade Tony to produce the Uwing Adelaide style for us as an exclusive, and he came up with the idea to bring better balance to the pattern by extending the Adeialde along the topline. Unfortunately I could not persuade G&G to produce that style, but Carmina was more than willing to do so, although José Albaladejo definitely put his own touch to the make-up. Can’t really blame Steve for capitalizing on “my” ideas, I in turn have been inspired by many other people.
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The Museum Calf from Carmina was bound to happen sooner or later I think. I visit the Carmina factory at least twice a year and I usually try to challenge them a bit by suggesting new designs and requests of bringing in new materials. Sometimes they bite, sometimes not. In turn, I found the drive to persuade Carmina from drooling over John Lobb make ups over on the Leathersoul website. And the Uwing design idea was inspired by an old Edward Green style called Windsor from the 80s. The extended Adelaide and reverse Adelaide was in turn an idea that Tony Gaziano came up with. I was trying to persuade Tony to produce the Uwing Adelaide style for us as an exclusive, and he came up with the idea to bring better balance to the pattern by extending the Adeialde along the topline. Unfortunately I could not persuade G&G to produce that style, but Carmina was more than willing to do so, although José Albaladejo definitely put his own touch to the make-up. Can’t really blame Steve for capitalizing on “my” ideas, I in turn have been inspired by many other people.

.....my man

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What's the next good Edward Green thing to have made up after this Zug and Willow business? Anyone have any unusual ideas. I suppose I will have to do some digging...

 

 

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Sure thing, but why not share ideas in the process...?

Besides if it generates enough interest maybe we'll be able to convince @Leaves to order it.

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Besides if it generates enough interest maybe we'll be able to convince @Leaves to order it.

I see what ya did there.

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Besides if it generates enough interest maybe we'll be able to convince @Leaves
 to order it.
I need to stop reading these threads... as long we another EG GMTO talk doesn't happen I should be safe. At least I gave my wife a decent watch so she won't scorn any new shoes. smile.gif
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What's the next good Edward Green thing to have made up after this Zug and Willow business? Anyone have any unusual ideas. I suppose I will have to do some digging...

I'm your huckleberry, I'm off to Northampton to dig in the EG leather storage room next week.
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Museum calf from any maker in any color, IMO, is a bit of a gamble. If done right, it is wonderfully unique. But sometimes the leather looks so blotchy as to make the shoe look like a total mess. Museum calf is one of only a very few leathers I will not buy unless I have the option to return (for the reasons stated). Perhaps others disagree. No problem.

It's a great way to make a $500 shoe look more exclusive. Hand burnishing they way EG and G&G does is expensive. Museum Calf is a way for makers in the lower tier premium segment to get some of this feel. I do agree that one has to be picky with MC, that's why we did not stock the Burgundy MC. Carmina does not use the same tannery as John Lobb, I don't know where they source it. Bonafé seems to source from the same tannery as Lobb though, because all the Bonafé MC swatches corresponds to names of MC leathers I've seen JLP use.
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Yeah, I meant add above that the folks at SkoAB should get major kudos for the u-cap boot design. Of course Sr. Albaladejo should get a ton of credit too. It's a wonderful concept. Great work all around.

Thanks!
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Sure thing, but why not share ideas in the process...?

Agreed, as you know, I'm always open to suggestions.

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Oh no...I agree entirely. I didn't mean we shouldn't talk about makeups. That just usually leads to GMTO talk. 

A coffee suede Nevis would be bananas. 

Keep the creativity flowing!
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Halifax on 202

Brown Utah leather

Dark brown edge trim

Flat welt

Dark brown Dainite sole

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I need to stop reading these threads... as long we another EG GMTO talk doesn't happen I should be safe. At least I gave my wife a decent watch so she won't scorn any new shoes. smile.gif

Excellent, were you able to find the one she wanted?

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The unwing boot is spectacular and Skoak deserves tremendous credit. Without diminishing that in any way, when customers come to GF and ask Steve to have Carmina reproduce a great design through him, what should he say? "No, please take your money elsewhere?" Just saying...
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@Leaves

 

Since the pingrain is not available at Edward Green at the moment, perhaps you could gently suggest they look into adding it again.

 

How about Maple Stag, or any color of Stag? I'll look to see if there are other interesting materials that are less common that could be helpful to ask about. 

Cheers. 

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