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Alex + co.,

I'm on the cusp for the Carmina Modern Classic in Brown (from here: http://www.skoaktiebolaget.se/collections/carmina/products/carmina-modern-classic-in-brown) but it occurred to me that it looks like there's no burnishing on the toe, which seems odd (funny how that's now become a semi-standard look; or at least I've come to expect it).

Just double checking to see if that's really the case or maybe the pics aren't picking it up. I'm sure I can darken them over time but just wanted to double check what their natural state is in real life.

Appreciation in advance!

edit: I'll also ask that I'm a solid US10.5, and more like a 10.7 in my right foot (about .25" extra width in my right foot's toe area). Should I be going for a UK9.5 in these or a UK10?

Hi,

 

The Modern Classic lacks burnishing, but the Vegano Marron has a nice depth to it that might seem to be an antiqued nuance.

 

As for size, may I ask what brands and lasts you have a previous experience of? In Carminas case, UK9.5 is roughly equivalent to US10.5. However, the Simpson last is snug fitting so it is not uncommon to size up half a size.


Edited by Skoaktiebolaget - 6/28/14 at 2:11am
post #3122 of 24313
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So I just got an email about my Manolo Adelaide GMTO pre-order. Apparently the source for the suede changed and it no longer looks like the original. I'm not sure if I like the new suede and I'm debating opting to take the offer for a refund. Wanted something more like polo suede or more tan. Not sure about this one. Thoughts?

Old



New

 

 

Yeah, I'm kinda bummed as well. Really loved the old suede and looked forward to it immensely. I stopped by yesterday to take a look, but they were busy with a customer and I was in a hurry. Going to try again today to see how it looks in person. 

post #3123 of 24313
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Yeah, I'm kinda bummed as well. Really loved the old suede and looked forward to it immensely. I stopped by yesterday to take a look, but they were busy with a customer and I was in a hurry. Going to try again today to see how it looks in person. 

How did that happen???
I'm sure there must be an explanation...
Let's hear it...
post #3124 of 24313
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How did that happen???
I'm sure there must be an explanation...
Let's hear it...

Apparently the old supplier went bankrupt.
post #3125 of 24313
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How did that happen???
I'm sure there must be an explanation...
Let's hear it...

The tannery that supplied the first tobacco suede went bankrupt so Carmina had to switch tannery
mid-process. Unfortunately we were never told about this and could not inform our clients of the change of tannery/leather.

post #3126 of 24313
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The tannery that supplied the first tobacco suede went bankrupt so Carmina had to switch tannery

mid-process. Unfortunately we were never told about this and could not inform our clients of the change of tannery/leather.

Understand completely - though very unfortunate. The first group were very lucky to get the tobacco suede :-)

I'm assuming that we will get an option for refund? I just hope Camina will take responsibility...as it is not fair to you guys...
post #3127 of 24313
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Understand completely - though very unfortunate. The first group were very lucky to get the tobacco suede :-)

I'm assuming that we will get an option for refund? I just hope Camina will take responsibility...as it is not fair to you guys...

You have the option to get a full refund of the MTO deposit if you'd like.

post #3128 of 24313
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Originally Posted by Skoaktiebolaget View Post

Hi,
The Modern Classic lacks burnishing, but the Vegano Marron has a nice depth to it that might seem to be an antiqued nuance.
Ok, thanks for info.
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Originally Posted by Skoaktiebolaget View Post

As for size, may I ask what brands and lasts you have a previous experience of? In Carminas case, UK9.5 is roughly equivalent to US10.5. However, the Simpson last is snug fitting so it is not uncommon to size up half a size.

C&J 358 in UK 9 1/2E Brunswick: fits perfect
C&J 348 in US 10.5D Ludlow: perfect left foot, the right foot is about 1/4 too small (@#$%!).
C&J 325 for RL in US 10.5D Lindrick, Marlow Penny and Shortwing: a touch big, but fine (couldn't size down)
Alden Plaza Last in 10.5 B/D Wingtip Boot: great.

You'll see in a lot of cases where people size down 1/2 (like the CJ325) I stay at TTS and, while it might be a touch big, it's fine for me.

fyi: I appreciate the input!

(even after all these years on SF, I didn't have this info at the ready - thanks for making me take the time to put it together!)
post #3129 of 24313
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Ok, thanks for info.
C&J 358 in UK 9 1/2E Brunswick: fits perfect
C&J 348 in US 10.5D Ludlow: perfect left foot, the right foot is about 1/4 too small (@#$%!).
C&J 325 for RL in US 10.5D Lindrick, Marlow Penny and Shortwing: a touch big, but fine (couldn't size down)
Alden Plaza Last in 10.5 B/D Wingtip Boot: great.

You'll see in a lot of cases where people size down 1/2 (like the CJ325) I stay at TTS and, while it might be a touch big, it's fine for me.

fyi: I appreciate the input!

(even after all these years on SF, I didn't have this info at the ready - thanks for making me take the time to put it together!)

No problem! The 358 last in E-width is somewhat similar to the Simpson last in terms of shape but the Simpson last is most likely slightly more snug, especially around the instep. If that's no problem, then I'd say UK9.5. If you have wide feet and/or a high instep, I'd say UK10.

post #3130 of 24313
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Originally Posted by Keen View Post


Yeah, I'm kinda bummed as well. Really loved the old suede and looked forward to it immensely. I stopped by yesterday to take a look, but they were busy with a customer and I was in a hurry. Going to try again today to see how it looks in person. 

I am still taking delivery of my size. Apparently the colour is the same as the tobacco suede penny loafer on the site.

I really did like the original colour, but the new shade of tobacco probably lends itself better to more combinations, whereas the reddish tones of the original make it less versatile. Here's a picture of a chukka in the old batch of tobacco, and in natural light you can really see the redness. Not saying it's not a great looking shade, but I'm also not as disappointed as I thought I would be. See for yourselves:

post #3131 of 24313
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I am still taking delivery of my size. Apparently the colour is the same as the tobacco suede penny loafer on the site.

I really did like the original colour, but the new shade of tobacco probably lends itself better to more combinations, whereas the reddish tones of the original make it less versatile. Here's a picture of a chukka in the old batch of tobacco, and in natural light you can really see the redness. Not saying it's not a great looking shade, but I'm also not as disappointed as I thought I would be. See for yourselves:


Really love that tobacco color...too bad
post #3132 of 24313
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Originally Posted by Skoaktiebolaget View Post

No problem! The 358 last in E-width is somewhat similar to the Simpson last in terms of shape but the Simpson last is most likely slightly more snug, especially around the instep. If that's no problem, then I'd say UK9.5. If you have wide feet and/or a high instep, I'd say UK10.

Thanks for the info. I am still in decision mode, but your input helps!
post #3133 of 24313
Thread Starter 
X-post from the EG thread:

Ok people, it's happening. A new EG Dover GMTO is taking off. The specs:
  • Edward Green Dover
  • Mahogany Country Calf
  • 202 last 
  • Dainite Sole with flat welt
  • Width: E (for other widths please e-mail us)
  • Price ex VAT, outside the EU: 6640 SEK. EG trees 760 SEK. Shipping 300 SEK (total 7700 SEK ex VAT). For EU clients, add +25% SWE VAT.
  • Deposit: 25% deposit, 75% payment before delivery.

Please e-mail sales@skoaktiebolaget.se to participate. A payment link will be put up on our site within a few days.

Members who have expressed interest:
@tifosi
@rydenfan
@laufer
@CHRK33
@Leaves
@tchoy(unfonfirmed)

Dover (just in case you forgot how it looks smile.gif )


Mahogany CC:
post #3134 of 24313
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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post

X-post from the EG thread:

Ok people, it's happening. A new EG Dover GMTO is taking off. The specs:
  • Edward Green Dover
  • Mahogany Country Calf
  • 202 last 
  • Dainite Sole with flat welt
  • Width: E (for other widths please e-mail us)
  • Price ex VAT, outside the EU: 6640 SEK. EG trees 760 SEK. Shipping 300 SEK (total 7700 SEK ex VAT). For EU clients, add +25% SWE VAT.
  • Deposit: 25% deposit, 75% payment before delivery.

Please e-mail sales@skoaktiebolaget.se to participate. A payment link will be put up on our site within a few days.

Members who have expressed interest:
@tifosi
@rydenfan
@laufer
@CHRK33
@Leaves
@tchoy(unfonfirmed)

Dover (just in case you forgot how it looks smile.gif )


Mahogany CC:

Thank you so much, Patrik. E-mail sent!
post #3135 of 24313
I am confirmed. Email sent

Now to I need to PM you about some Galways as well smile.gif
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