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but i would be UK B width

Yes, but we'd only need 1 of those 5 to be in for the restock to go through
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Yes, but we'd only need 1 of those 5 to be in for the restock to go through

I'd probably be more like a G width, but I'll stop by a few places and get sized this week.

Definitely in.
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(...) I'll stop by a few places and get sized this week. Definitely in.
I hope you buy something while being "sized", this is the reason Skoak is getting flak. Manufacturers are getting feedback from retailers who are having people waste their time "sizing" StC, GG, and EG.
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I hope you buy something while being "sized", this is the reason Skoak is getting flak. Manufacturers are getting feedback from retailers who are having people waste their time "sizing" StC, GG, and EG.
Specially if those ppl are on commission lol
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Understand, and hopefully they can give you the sizing help you need. I'm just glad I don't face the same sizing challenges that you have.

Good Luck!!


i know. it is really a pain between my large size and even worse with the narrow width, but thankfully once i find a last and size that works pretty well, i can just order more and more. haha

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Yes, but we'd only need 1 of those 5 to be in for the restock to go through


good. I'm just waiting on Skoak then but Im thinking the smaller size will be the safer bet so maybe I will actually just be able to wear a thin pair of socks for once. haha. 

 

What do you guys wear when comparing EG to GG? I know my shape of my foot changes things up a bit, but it always is good to know the general trends that you guys follow. I've always ignored them for myself because my sizing is so out of the range of you guys. haha

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I hope you buy something while being "sized", this is the reason Skoak is getting flak. Manufacturers are getting feedback from retailers who are having people waste their time "sizing" StC, GG, and EG.

I think a particular retailer where I have purchased several pairs from different makers in the past and other products Won't mind letting me try on one or two pairs, especially considering they don't stock the particular model I wish to purchase.

I don't plan on being dishonest with my intentions.

Currency exchange rates won't be this lopsided forever, and if retailers want to retain regular customers who have started to eye overseas businesses, maybe it's in their best interest to adjust their pricing temporarily, as several SF affiliate vendors have done. Trust me, it would definitely be easier and preferable to buy locally.
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I think a particular retailer where I have purchased several pairs from different makers in the past and other products Won't mind letting me try on one or two pairs, especially considering they don't stock the particular model I wish to purchase.

I don't plan on being dishonest with my intentions.


good idea. it is best to stick with the retailer who helps you because they deserve the sales for the work they put in, especially for great places who really do work to help you like Skoak

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I think a particular retailer where I have purchased several pairs from different makers in the past and other products Won't mind letting me try on one or two pairs, especially considering they don't stock the particular model I wish to purchase.

I don't plan on being dishonest with my intentions.

Currency exchange rates won't be this lopsided forever, and if retailers want to retain regular customers who have started to eye overseas businesses, maybe it's in their best interest to adjust their pricing temporarily, as several SF affiliate vendors have done. Trust me, it would definitely be easier and preferable to buy locally.
Well said mate.
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Hi, anyone has a real life picture comparing EG coffee suede, Carmina Polo suede, and Carmina snuff suede ? I am looking for a light shade of suede for the sunny days

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Actually, after thinking about it, I should probably just email Gabriel for advice anyway. I've bought shoes from them before, after all, and I actually doubt that this other retailer will even have anything wide enough for me to try on in this brand.

Guess I got carried away in my enthusiasm.
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Hi, anyone has a real life picture comparing EG coffee suede, Carmina Polo suede, and Carmina snuff suede ? I am looking for a light shade of suede for the sunny days

There is a pic of the Carmina and EG next to each other in this thread about a month ago.
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I hope you buy something while being "sized", this is the reason Skoak is getting flak. Manufacturers are getting feedback from retailers who are having people waste their time "sizing" StC, GG, and EG.
I'll try to put this as delicately as I can, but I'm not going to feel too bad for retailers charging $550 for Carminas when they can be had online through other retailers here for $100-$200 less. The exchange rate only goes so far to explain that huge gap. What's troubling to me is not that the retailers here charging $550 haven't met Skoak's prices but that they haven't even lowered them at all in the face of market forces. If they are going to stick to that price, then sorry I might use them from time to time to get my sizing right. We're not talking about charitable organizations here. It's high end luxury goods - there's no room for hurt feelings. Lower your prices or be change your expectations. Or do like Mike at Epaulet and stop carrying the brand if it's not worth it. Jeez.
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Well, we can take this to a logical extension. What would it cost to do a single MTO through a US retailer just to get a wide fitting? Maybe 1200? What's the commission on a pair of 1200 shoes? Around 120-200? Depends on the store, I guess. Why not just Compensate the store in the amount of the commission for the time spent sizing? You still save around 300-400$

If the store is in fact entitled to that much money for the SA's time?

I guess this is an interesting dilemma in American consumer ethics, which are decidedly different from European.

But anyway, I will just email The Skoak team for advice. They were spot on with advice for my Bonafe sizing, plus it saves me a trip into the city.
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I hope you buy something while being "sized", this is the reason Skoak is getting flak. Manufacturers are getting feedback from retailers who are having people waste their time "sizing" StC, GG, and EG.

 

 

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I'll try to put this as delicately as I can, but I'm not going to feel too bad for retailers charging $550 for Carminas when they can be had online through other retailers here for $100-$200 less. The exchange rate only goes so far to explain that huge gap. What's troubling to me is not that the retailers here charging $550 haven't met Skoak's prices but that they haven't even lowered them at all in the face of market forces. If they are going to stick to that price, then sorry I might use them from time to time to get my sizing right. We're not talking about charitable organizations here. It's high end luxury goods - there's no room for hurt feelings. Lower your prices or be change your expectations. Or do like Mike at Epaulet and stop carrying the brand if it's not worth it. Jeez.

 

   I have to agree with eljlakers.  Having worked with a kinda sorta premiere retailer of a particular brand and gotten to know and received a good bit of help & advice

   from one of their SA's on 4 pair. When it got to the point I could have the same thing made by the same manufacturer at a 3 - $ 500 reduction in cost my 'loyalty'

   began to wane and price became king. It's a normal and responsible progression.

 

   Sure, I'll use the original retailer if they can bring a material, style or detail to the table that I can't get on my own but the likelihood of that happening is fairly small.

 

   What I REALLY wanted to point out by jumping in this conversation is to say it may be time that we put a cork in crowing about who has the cheapest price for a pair

   of shoes. Why ? Because, believe it or not, (shouldn't be a surprise to anyone ) manufacturers heavily monitor this forum for hints about what we want and are

   buying. I've noticed several brick & mortar retailers attempting to mimic similar styles at a lower price point with substandard workmanship ending up dazed and

   confused about why it didn't work. There's nothing new or novel about bricks & mortar / online pricing differences. If a company has lower overhead with one vs the

   other, a lower price point is appropriate.

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