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Any interest for this MTO with Skoaktiebolaget?

Model: The Oxford

Color: Vintage Oak

Last: DG70 Smart round

Sole: Fiddle - back oak bark-tanned single leather

Lining: Standard dark brown

F-Width.

post #2672 of 5119
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Anybody want to do a group MTO on this model again? I'm in if we an get another 2 guys. We can even do a different colour?

 


Could I get a price quote?

For a group MTO, each pair will be 4160 SEK (excl. VAT), approx. 636 $. 
With a surcharge rate at 15 % out of retail price, a single MTO (with no add-ons or exotic leathers) is 4784 SEK (excl. VAT), which is approx. 732 $.

 

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Why Blake stitching? Is there any visible difference between it and Goodyear?

Blake stitching provides an even sleeker look. Blake stitching is a construction technique that doesn't make use of a welt. Instead, the sole is attached directly to the upper and the insole with stitching through the outersole and the insole. As you can see, there is no midsole nor welt between the upper and the sole edge.

post #2673 of 5119

FYI - Blake stitching:

 

cousu_blake.jpg

post #2674 of 5119
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Originally Posted by Skoaktiebolaget View Post

For a group MTO, each pair will be 4160 SEK (excl. VAT), approx. 636 $. 

With a surcharge rate at 15 % out of retail price, a single MTO (with no add-ons or exotic leathers) is 4784 SEK (excl. VAT), which is approx. 732 $.

Blake stitching provides an even sleeker look. Blake stitching is a construction technique that doesn't make use of a welt. Instead, the sole is attached directly to the upper and the insole with stitching through the outersole and the insole. As you can see, there is no midsole nor welt between the upper and the sole edge.


I'm definitely in - just need to decide on colour with whoever else is imvolved
post #2675 of 5119
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I'm definitely in - just need to decide on colour with whoever else is imvolved

I am interested but it could be at least 2-3 weeks before I can make a decision having said that I have a strong preferences for light tan color or what Bonafe calls Vitello Elise. I will try to take a picture of Vitello Elise swatch I have next to the other tan colors I have; Carmina tan and cordovan whiskey color so guys can see what it looks like.

@Leaves if you guys could take a picture of Vitello Elise next to EG Acorn or GG Maple that would help us a lot. My understanign is that these three colors are similar.

Also I would also prefer blake stitching since we are going with the lighter color we might as well go with the lighter sole.

Let's keep this going and see who else is interested.
post #2676 of 5119
Isn't part of the beauty of Bonafé the hand welting??? Blake stitching is done by machine is it not? I'm not sure there is a quality difference but maybe we can get another group for hand welting... 15% upcharge seems like a bargain compared to 50% for Carmina for a (beautiful and well made) machine made shoe... so maybe I will think deeply about another makeup just for myself for ≈ $100 upcharge..nod[1].gif
post #2677 of 5119
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The guys at Skoak recommend going with your Carmina Rain size if you are familiar with that last.

So I got my sizing down, at least in the Carmina Rain last. I'm a US 10 for my left foot and a US 9.5 in my right foot. I believe that's a UK 9.5 for my left and UK 9 for my right, according to Carmina's sizing conversion chart. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I'm assuming that ordering different sizes for my left and right foot won't be a problem as this is a MTO.

 

As for the makeup of the shoe, I'm ok with any shade of brown, but I would prefer a darker shade if I had to choose (will go with lighter if that's what the majority wants).  I don't particularly care for Blake stitching.  Would it be possible for flush metal toe taps to be added?  How much extra would that cost?

post #2678 of 5119
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I am interested but it could be at least 2-3 weeks before I can make a decision having said that I have a strong preferences for light tan color or what Bonafe calls Vitello Elise. I will try to take a picture of Vitello Elise swatch I have next to the other tan colors I have; Carmina tan and cordovan whiskey color so guys can see what it looks like.

@Leaves if you guys could take a picture of Vitello Elise next to EG Acorn or GG Maple that would help us a lot. My understanign is that these three colors are similar.

Also I would also prefer blake stitching since we are going with the lighter color we might as well go with the lighter sole.

Let's keep this going and see who else is interested.

 

We'll try and post some comparison shots during the day.

 

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Originally Posted by agbassano View Post

Isn't part of the beauty of Bonafé the hand welting??? Blake stitching is done by machine is it not? I'm not sure there is a quality difference but maybe we can get another group for hand welting... 15% upcharge seems like a bargain compared to 50% for Carmina for a (beautiful and well made) machine made shoe... so maybe I will think deeply about another makeup just for myself for ≈ $100 upcharge..nod[1].gif

 

The Blake is also hand stitched. The only pro for the Blake in our opinion is the sleekness, like if you want a summer loafer, formal dress patent shoe etc. 

 

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Originally Posted by diadem View Post
 

So I got my sizing down, at least in the Carmina Rain last. I'm a US 10 for my left foot and a US 9.5 in my right foot. I believe that's a UK 9.5 for my left and UK 9 for my right, according to Carmina's sizing conversion chart. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I'm assuming that ordering different sizes for my left and right foot won't be a problem as this is a MTO.

 

As for the makeup of the shoe, I'm ok with any shade of brown, but I would prefer a darker shade if I had to choose (will go with lighter if that's what the majority wants).  I don't particularly care for Blake stitching.  Would it be possible for flush metal toe taps to be added?  How much extra would that cost?

 

Please remember that a GMTO is not actually a MTO. It's a group order. All the pairs in a GMTO has to be exactly the same except for size. Also, you cannot have different sizes for one pair. 

 

EDIT: faulty comment


Edited by Skoaktiebolaget - 4/14/14 at 7:27am
post #2679 of 5119
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All the pairs in a GMTO has to be exactly the same except for size. Also, you cannot have different sizes for one pair. 
A bit contradictory... peepwall[1].gif
post #2680 of 5119
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A bit contradictory... peepwall[1].gif

When you consider that Edward Green, Gaziano & Girling and Enzo Bonafé all apply the same policy one could assume that there is actually a valid reason for it, I don't think they're doing it just to piss people off. smile.gif
post #2681 of 5119
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When you consider that Edward Green, Gaziano & Girling and Enzo Bonafé all apply the same policy one could assume that there is actually a valid reason for it, I don't think they're doing it just to piss people off. smile.gif
I only point out that the wording is confusing. My peace has already been made with the GMTO policy.

I would assume they meant to say you can have different sizes in the GMTO, but there can be no width deviation. Which is not so clear in the original statement I quoted...
post #2682 of 5119
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I also want to try this model in black, on the 2102 soft chisel, but I'm not sure if it can be replicated. It's a Kiton shoe, and I really think it would be a nice addition for myself. Better then just a plain black captoe,
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Yes, it's possible to make this model. 

post #2683 of 5119
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Originally Posted by Skoaktiebolaget View Post

The Blake is also hand stitched. The only pro for the Blake in our opinion is the sleekness, like if you want a summer loafer, formal dress patent shoe.

Are you sure about this? I know you can replicate a Blake stitch by hand, but it's very hard and time consuming. I've never heard of any RTW/MTO maker doing it, and it's very rare among bespoke makers as well.
post #2684 of 5119
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Also, you cannot have different sizes for one pair. 

 


Well, this is a dealbreaker for me. Paying $600+ for a pair of shoes that don't fit well (on one foot, anyway) doesn't make much sense to me. I am going to have to pull out of this GTMO.
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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post



When you consider that Edward Green, Gaziano & Girling and Enzo Bonafé all apply the same policy one could assume that there is actually a valid reason for it, I don't think they're doing it just to piss people off. smile.gif

 


Could you maybe shed some light as to why they have this policy? As far as I'm aware, these shoes are handmade to order. I don't see what's so difficult about using one last to make one shoe and a different sized last to make the other.

I'm befuddled that higher-end brands like the ones you've mentioned have this policy when I can place an order for a MTO pair of Allen Edmonds shoes at no extra cost with different sizes for the same pair.

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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

I would assume they meant to say you can have different sizes in the GMTO, but there can be no width deviation. Which is not so clear in the original statement I quoted...

 


And the thing is I don't actually need a difference in width -- just my left shoe a half size larger than my right.
post #2685 of 5119
Thread Starter 
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Also, you cannot have different sizes for one pair. 

 


Well, this is a dealbreaker for me. Paying $600+ for a pair of shoes that don't fit well (on one foot, anyway) doesn't make much sense to me. I am going to have to pull out of this GTMO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaves View Post



When you consider that Edward Green, Gaziano & Girling and Enzo Bonafé all apply the same policy one could assume that there is actually a valid reason for it, I don't think they're doing it just to piss people off. smile.gif

 


Could you maybe shed some light as to why they have this policy? As far as I'm aware, these shoes are handmade to order. I don't see what's so difficult about using one last to make one shoe and a different sized last to make the other.

I'm befuddled that higher-end brands like the ones you've mentioned have this policy when I can place an order for a MTO pair of Allen Edmonds shoes at no extra cost with different sizes for the same pair.

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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

I would assume they meant to say you can have different sizes in the GMTO, but there can be no width deviation. Which is not so clear in the original statement I quoted...

 


And the thing is I don't actually need a difference in width -- just my left shoe a half size larger than my right.

For a single MTO you can change both width and sizes for left and right foot. But not for a group buy.
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