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You been here CLT?

 @Cleav I painstakingly reviewed that thread in preparation for my purchase above. :) 

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New week = more shoes from @Skoaktiebolaget

 

Carmina museum calf adelaides:

 

 

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Originally Posted by CLTesquire View Post

 @Cleav
I painstakingly reviewed that thread in preparation for my purchase above. smile.gif  

Very good smile.gif

Nice patina on those toe caps too ^
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Participated in the GMTO organized by @Zapasman for a Enzo Bonafe Split Toe boot with below specs:

 

Model: 2927

Last: 74945

Upper Leather:  Scozia 6120

Double Dainite sole.

Construction: Norvegese with 360º Chain Stich.

360º Chain and Apron Thread Colour: Natural

Sole Edge/Flat Welt Colour: Brown

Eyelets: Blind.

Shoelaces: 1 pair of Braided + 1 pair of Normal.

 

The boots came out pretty sweet and I like the leather/colour quite alot. The usual good stuff from Bonafe applies so I'll just make mention of the not so good stuff below.

 

Welt

As you can obviously see, the welt came out to be different. It looks to be a reverse welt but Skoaktiebolaget clarified over email it was a storm welt with a single norvegese stitch. I was expecting the usual 3 row of stitches for a norvegese but this only comes with the reverse welt stitch and usual blake stitch through the sole. Missing is the 'stitch down' where the turned out upper is secured to the welt. Not quite sure if this still qualifies as norvegese in my book.

 

Issue with welt stitches at toe area

In the last 2 pics, the toe stitch for both boots are messy and literally at the edge. Not sure if the stitches may get damaged in the long run through scuffs.

 

Braided laces

This is not a criticism for construction. I would not recommend ordering laces that cannot be removed with a pair of high boots. Bonafe laces it the shoe shop method hence to loosen it up to wear, literally you have to loop through every single hole then tighten it all the way back up. I am considering cutting the laces off and use the extra brown ones. It is quite a pity as I liked the natural coloured laces with the natural stitching and reverse welt. Maybe I will figure something out at the cobbler? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Problem with the stitching at the welt near the tip

 

Right shoe

 

 

Left shoe

 


Edited by ecwy - 8/9/16 at 9:54am
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Those are some amazing boots.
Edited by vmss - 8/9/16 at 8:02am
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That's a shame you didn't get what you ordered. This has me concerned that my pair of boots (ordered with chain stitching) will come out the way yours did.

Edit: just noticed the welt stitching at the toe (would be helpful if you clarified in your original post, I was looking at the split toe stitching and not the welt). In my opinion those should be seconds. That's just sloppy and unacceptable for a machine stitched $500+ boot. Again, just my opinion.
Edited by rbhan12 - 8/9/16 at 7:03am
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Which color of StC would be closest to GG/EG Oak?

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My MTO Carmina 748 in saddle cordovan. These are surprisingly close in color to my light cognac Carmina PTB. Skoaktiebolaget has the best shipping to the US. 

 

 

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That's a shame you didn't get what you ordered. This has me concerned that my pair of boots (ordered with chain stitching) will come out the way yours did.

Edit: just noticed the welt stitching at the toe (would be helpful if you clarified in your original post, I was looking at the split toe stitching and not the welt). In my opinion those should be seconds. That's just sloppy and unacceptable for a machine stitched $500+ boot. Again, just my opinion.

 

Hmm will try to fix the original header..

 

I haven't contacted them on it.... yet. This was ordered since Nov 2015 so another 9 months is going to be meh.

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Hmm will try to fix the original header..

I haven't contacted them on it.... yet. This was ordered since Nov 2015 so another 9 months is going to be meh.

Boots look awesome. I don't have the full details regarding this GMTO, but if there was any mistake made on our part we'll try to fix it of course - please email us - Gabriel is back from vacation next week and will try and sort it out. Bonafè is closed until end of the month though.
post #22421 of 23719

I think those boots look great and I'm not trying to be difficult but I really don't see much, if any, real problem.   If they aren't as ordered, that's another issue of course.

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Originally Posted by ecwy View Post

Hmm will try to fix the original header..

I haven't contacted them on it.... yet. This was ordered since Nov 2015 so another 9 months is going to be meh.

Maybe they can expedite your pair or something. Again just my opinion, but that is not acceptable work on a $500+ boot. Meermin does better welt work than that.
post #22423 of 23719

I didn't post about it here, mostly because it doesn't bother me at all and I still love both pairs, but both my Bonafe MTOs (plum museum chukka and black stitch cap) have very sloppy welt stitching. I think the fact that the thread is black against a black welt makes it hard to notice unless you are specifically looking, so that's why I don't really care. But this case seems pretty noticeable to me.

 

I think it's one of the trade-offs you can expect for getting a hand welted shoe, hand made single run shoe at such an affordable price. It ain't gonna be perfect like Meccariello or Templeman. Vass also have their inconsistencies. Something's gotta give to get a truly handmade product with quality components at this price.

 

Having said all this, I would completely understand being irked at this welt stitch on this pair, considering the contrast thread and the fact that it's right up on the toe.

post #22424 of 23719
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Originally Posted by ecwy View Post
 

Participated in the GMTO organized by @Zapasman for a Enzo Bonafe Split Toe boot with below specs:

 

Model: 2927

Last: 74945

Upper Leather:  Scozia 6120

Double Dainite sole.

Construction: Norvegese with 360º Chain Stich.

360º Chain and Apron Thread Colour: Natural

Sole Edge/Flat Welt Colour: Brown

Eyelets: Blind.

Shoelaces: 1 pair of Braided + 1 pair of Normal.

 

The boots came out pretty sweet and I like the leather/colour quite alot. The usual good stuff from Bonafe applies so I'll just make mention of the not so good stuff below.

 

Welt

As you can obviously see, the welt came out to be different. It looks to be a reverse welt but Skoaktiebolaget clarified over email it was a storm welt with a single norvegese stitch. I was expecting the usual 3 row of stitches for a norvegese but this only comes with the reverse welt stitch and usual blake stitch through the sole. Missing is the 'stitch down' where the turned out upper is secured to the welt. Not quite sure if this still qualifies as norvegese in my book.

 

Issue with welt stitches at toe area

In the last 2 pics, the toe stitch for both boots are messy and literally at the edge. Not sure if the stitches may get damaged in the long run through scuffs.

 

Braided laces

This is not a criticism for construction. I would not recommend ordering laces that cannot be removed with a pair of high boots. Bonafe laces it the shoe shop method hence to loosen it up to wear, literally you have to loop through every single hole then tighten it all the way back up. I am considering cutting the laces off and use the extra brown ones. It is quite a pity as I liked the natural coloured laces with the natural stitching and reverse welt. Maybe I will figure something out at the cobbler? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Problem with the stitching at the welt near the tip

 

Right shoe

 

 

Left shoe

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ecwy View Post
 

 

Hmm will try to fix the original header..

 

I haven't contacted them on it.... yet. This was ordered since Nov 2015 so another 9 months is going to be meh.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post


Boots look awesome. I don't have the full details regarding this GMTO, but if there was any mistake made on our part we'll try to fix it of course - please email us - Gabriel is back from vacation next week and will try and sort it out. Bonafè is closed until end of the month though.

Hi Ecwy and Leaves,

 

The boots are really beautiful, but unfortunately they did not turn as expected as far as we ordered a 360º chained -two rows- norvegese boots,and for me that is a must.  I am sure that Gabriel/EB will take care of it once  both are back from hollidays. On my side  I won´t mind to wait several more months to get exacly what I want.On the other hand,  I have never seen such a rapid stitch so poorly done in an EB´s shoes; a clear flaw IMHO

 

Anyway, I will keep in touch with Gabriel to reach a solution on September once I come back from my hollidays. Thanks and cheers.

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I just received both Enzo Bonafe 946 last and Carmina rain last whole cuts size uk8. First time buying both Enzo Bonafe and Carmina 's rain last.

The Enzo Bonafe fits me perfectly, however I find that the rain last in same size fits roomier, wider heel and are longer compared to the EB 946 last. I can already close the eyelets fully on the rain last. This means that they are too roomy for me have to return or sell them. Seems to me also that the rain last has a higher instep than the 946.

Those that have both did you experience that the rain last is slightly roomier than EB 946 last?
Edited by vmss - 8/9/16 at 4:28pm
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