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the women's jodhpur boots for my wife......obviously there is a plan behind the whole issue.....

Beautiful!

 

My wife loves hers as well. Unfortunately I think she has taken up my bad habits and has yet to wear them.

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and about the pad, it's the souvenir from......well, someone important and you just can't reject to put it on your desk

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Thoughts on Carlos Santos.

Alright, so I received the Carlos Santos Swan Neck Oxfords yesterday, in black, which are on the 187 Last. My first instincts were - to be perfectly honest - yikes, these are too pointy for my tastes. I unboxed my G&Gs which also came yesterday, and compared them length-wise. They were surprisingly similar in length.

So I tried them on, stood up, and was rather surprised how nice they looked on the foot. The last reminds me of the Carmina Inca - which I have pictured below in brown suede. However, the 187 is a bit more chiseled than the Carmina Inca - the latter is very round and almondy. I am still warming up to the 187 last. The shoes are fairly narrow. And there is a good amount of extension. I think they are keepers as far as I am concerned.

It is likely that the 187 looks more extended than it is due to the placement of the toe cap. If you compare the CS with the G&G, the toe cap on the CS is a good half an inch closer to the vamp, which serves to exacerbate the already extended last. However, on the foot this was not noticeable at all. And this is something that WOULD stand out to me.

As someone else mentioned, the toe cap stiching is stylistically closer to the vamp to balance the swan neck. I am not sure if it is perfectly harmonious with the last, but in this price segment, I think it does an above average job (objectively speaking).

First impressions. The shoes are comfortable, if a bit stiff. The finishing is very neat, especially considering the price. The last is narrow, but it fit my foot nicely. I think that if you had to size up, then maybe this last is not for you. I have no qualms with the finishing whatsoever - it seems very similar to Carmina. The shoes come in a nice box, with nice bags, and a shoe horn. The leather quality is about the same as Carmina in my opinion. With that said, Carmina does have the benefit of closed channel stitching (which I really, really do not care about, TBH, on $325.00 shoes). I think that Carmina feels a bit more refined, especially the last and design. But then again, I prefer this last to the Inca, and this is the most elongated last that Skoak offers in Carlos Santos, so I am probably not being fair.

All in all, they feel far nicer than $325.00 shoes (with the way shoes are priced today), and I think they are a great buy in the value segment. However, pre-price increase, I think Carmina was a better option - but then again, we all know that the $330.00 Carmina's were too good to be true. However, they were a better option by a very slim margin.

Carlos Santos comes in a nice package, they are well finished, they seem to be on nicely shaped lasts, and they feel nice and sturdy. Will likely buy another pair.

As far as sizing:

I am a UK9E in C&J on the 348, UK9 (stardard width) in Carmina on the Rain, Inca, etc., US10D Allen Edmonds, UK9.5/10 D or E in E&G in the 606, 82, and 888, UK9.5E in G&G, 42.5/43 in Vass F Last (I have a small instep, which is my problem with Vass), 43/43.5 in Vass U Last.

Hope all this helps!

Last comparison - G&G and CS.






Last comparison - CS, Carmina Inca, and C&J 348.





Edited by Newcomer - 2/11/16 at 6:54am
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@Newcomer, you should join Thorpe VOAK GMTO.
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@Leaves or any of the other Skoak lads: Care to offer suggestions for those of us with lower insteps? It seems like the majority of lasts cater to the high instep crowd. Thanks in advance.

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@Leaves
 or any of the other Skoak lads: Care to offer suggestions for those of us with lower insteps? It seems like the majority of lasts cater to the high instep crowd. Thanks in advance.

187 last. We have two more lasts incoming in a few weeks, we have only briefly fitted these so will have to get back later in regards of this. For further fitting advise please email us.
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@Newcomer, you should join Thorpe VOAK GMTO.

Ha, I will think about it smile.gif.
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Too bad the CS boots don't come in a size 12...

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Carlos Santos lasts Oliver

160: UK 8
187: 8.5
234: UK 8

Reference lasts Oliver

Carmina
Rain: UK 8
Simson: UK 8.5

Gaziano & Girling
MH71: 8.5 E (slightly narrow, could take wider width as well)
TG73:8.5 E (slightly narrow, could take wider width as well)

Saint Crispin’s
Classic: 8 G - Best fitting RTW last and size for me

Enzo Bonafè
946 – 8.5 (a bit roomy over the instep, slightly long)
363 – 8.5 (a bit roomy over the instep)

Will post comparisons for Douglas and Alexander later on. Gabriel has quite special feet because of his days as an soccer player so we'll exclude him - might just cause confusion. shog[1].gif[/quote]

Now I'm worried about my EB GMTOs...I have nearly identical sizing in Carmina and G&G as Oliver but was advised to go with 8 in 946 and 804. Fingers crossed...confused.gif
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Now I'm worried about my EB GMTOs...I have nearly identical sizing in Carmina and G&G as Oliver but was advised to go with 8 in 946 and 804. Fingers crossed...confused.gif

Don't be, the sizing advise you got was based on your feet, not Oliver's or my feet. The size comparison is just for guidance and always email to get custom, specific advise.
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Some new Enzo Bonafé styles just arrived.

Enzo Bonafé Adelaide - this was previously called 3200MOD but now has it's specific code as it became so popular: 3966. On the ever so popular 946 last.



Enzo Bonafé Espresso Calf Oxford on the awesome 74945 last.



And our delayed Longwing Boot finally arrived:
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Love those brown Oxfords. 

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Bumping my previous comment. Why did Skoak drop EG?
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Edward Green at Skoaktiebolaget

Dear friends, as you may have noticed we have been quite restrictive with Edward Green orders for some time now – and it is now a fact that we will start to phase out Edward Green. Although I really appreciate the Edward Green aesthetics and the history the company has, it has become clear that we cannot continue to work with them. This decision was based on our core values and our company philosophy.

Edward Green has promised us to honor any previously placed order (MTOs, pre-orders and such) and of course we will hold them to this pledge.

Kind regards,
Patrik a.k.a Leaves – founder and owner of Skoaktiebolaget

 

 

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Bumping my previous comment. Why did Skoak drop EG?
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Bumping my previous comment. Why did Skoak drop EG?
EG became a PITA
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