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Jack- Through years of trial and error I have culled my preferences down to a very small number of suppliers: SUITS - I divide them into 3 catagories High end - Gianluca Isaia MTM Standard - Ralph Lauren MTM Everyday Suits - Paul Stuart I generally order a few suits in the fall and the spring SHOES - Again, a few catagories High End - Edward Green - special order. I order 3-4 pairs a year. Standard - Alden Cordovan Everyday/Rain shoes - Allen Edmonds SHIRTS- High end - Turnbull & Asser MTM Standard - Brooks Brothers MTM 90% with french cuffs. TIES- I prefer grenadine silk ties, which I pick up at Paul Stuart. I like seasonal ties, and pick up the heavier wool and cashmere ones at Bergdorf in the fall. POCKET SQUARES - Paul Stuart, great selection Gray seems to be my official color, with the majority of my suits ranging from a really light pearl gray to a nice deep charcoal chalkstripe. Favorite color scheme is gray suit, white shirt, black grenadine tie, or some form of it. Generally with tan shoes, but you knew that already. How about you? Where do you like to shop?
post #122 of 201
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This is the funniest flamewar I've read in a while. Someone let me know if it gets better or gets really out of hand. Forsooth.
Thanks for the kind words, J. And congratulations on a wonderful forum. Tom, "your" Scotland sounds scary: I come from a different place entirely. Might I suggest a trip to Edinburgh, when you finally visit Scotland...for the first time. Impressive list, Phil. I, too, have a large number of grey suits--they're just so useful. I like Paul Stuart, as well, though I have never owned a suit or jacket of theirs. I did, however, buy two pairs of shoes from them years ago, when EG was still their maker of choice. I used to love Brooks Brothers, but the change in ownership took something away from the place (the Madison Avenue store was once a real gem). J.Press has lost a step, but it's still worth visiting, because so few old line American stores remain. Wilkes Bashford is all right, and I like Louis Boston. Barney's in New York can be interesting, but for me stores of that kind are really about finding something unusual, which likely slipped through the cracks. I buy my hats from Borsalino, my shoes from Green, C&J and Grenson, and my suits are a mixed lot of custom--A&S, Poole, Knize--and MTM. For shirts, I have enjoyed a longstanding relationship with Charvet, and when Beale & Inman existed still, I shopped there, as well (I am now trying to set up a proper understanding with Jantzen, which did a credible job on my first shirt). I also like the Paris store Old England, and I still buy from Cordings, which will make a number of useful things to measure. Good choices on your comprehensive list, Phil. By the way, have you tried Rohner socks from Switzerland? Regards, Jack
post #123 of 201
Jack- I have never tried Rohner socks. When it comes to socks I have only a few requirements. Firstly, they MUST be knee high socks. I despise ankle or calf socks with formal trousers of any kind. Secondly, I like durable socks. I generally get them from T & A ( I have an argyle sock fetish I think), and T & A are one of the only places I have seen with knee high arglyes. The other is Paul Stuart, who have the most unique patterned socks I have come across in a long while.
post #124 of 201
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(j @ 04 Oct. 2004, 9:10) This is the funniest flamewar I've read in a while. Someone let me know if it gets better or gets really out of hand. Forsooth.
Thanks for the kind words, J. And congratulations on a wonderful forum. Tom, "your" Scotland sounds scary: I come from a different place entirely. Might I suggest a trip to Edinburgh, when you finally visit Scotland...for the first time. Impressive list, Phil. I, too, have a large number of grey suits--they're just so useful. I like Paul Stuart, as well, though I have never owned a suit or jacket of theirs. I did, however, buy two pairs of shoes from them years ago, when EG was still their maker of choice. I used to love Brooks Brothers, but the change in ownership took something away from the place (the Madison Avenue store was once a real gem). J.Press has lost a step, but it's still worth visiting, because so few old line American stores remain. Wilkes Bashford is all right, and I like Louis Boston. Barney's in New York can be interesting, but for me stores of that kind are really about finding something unusual, which likely slipped through the cracks. I buy my hats from Borsalino, my shoes from Green, C&J and Grenson, and my suits are a mixed lot of custom--A&S, Poole, Knize--and MTM. For shirts, I have enjoyed a longstanding relationship with Charvet, and when Beale & Inman existed still, I shopped there, as well (I am now trying to set up a proper understanding with Jantzen, which did a credible job on my first shirt). I also like the Paris store Old England, and I still buy from Cordings, which will make a number of useful things to measure. Good choices on your comprehensive list, Phil. By the way, have you tried Rohner socks from Switzerland? Regards, Jack
Have you visited the Borsalino boutique in Florence? It's a wonderful shop, yet another reason to visit that fair city. koji
post #125 of 201
Wow, my joke went over like a lead balloon. -tom
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Originally Posted by j,04 Oct. 2004, 9:10
This is the funniest flamewar I've read in a while. Someone let me know if it gets better or gets really out of hand. Forsooth.
Thanks for the kind words, J. And congratulations on a wonderful forum. Tom, "your" Scotland sounds scary: I come from a different place entirely. Might I suggest a trip to Edinburgh, when you finally visit Scotland...for the first time. Impressive list, Phil. I, too, have a large number of grey suits--they're just so useful. I like Paul Stuart, as well, though I have never owned a suit or jacket of theirs. I did, however, buy two pairs of shoes from them years ago, when EG was still their maker of choice. I used to love Brooks Brothers, but the change in ownership took something away from the place (the Madison Avenue store was once a real gem). J.Press has lost a step, but it's still worth visiting, because so few old line American stores remain. Wilkes Bashford is all right, and I like Louis Boston. Barney's in New York can be interesting, but for me stores of that kind are really about finding something unusual, which likely slipped through the cracks. I buy my hats from Borsalino, my shoes from Green, C&J and Grenson, and my suits are a mixed lot of custom--A&S, Poole, Knize--and MTM. For shirts, I have enjoyed a longstanding relationship with Charvet, and when Beale & Inman existed still, I shopped there, as well (I am now trying to set up a proper understanding with Jantzen, which did a credible job on my first shirt). I also like the Paris store Old England, and I still buy from Cordings, which will make a number of useful things to measure. Good choices on your comprehensive list, Phil. By the way, have you tried Rohner socks from Switzerland? Regards, Jack
Have you visited the Borsalino boutique in Florence? It's a wonderful shop, yet another reason to visit that fair city. koji
Did you hear the one about the guy with the lame Scottish joke, Tom? He found religion. Koji: I've visited the Via Porta Rossa store, and you're right, the place is simply terrific. I bought a pearl grey Homburg there, which is a thing of beauty made better still by the firm knowledge that Borsalino Homburgs are now increasingly hard to find (JJ Hat Center was the last NYC store where I saw one in the 'Nineties). Do you wear hats with your suits? Regards, Jack
post #127 of 201
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Jack- I have never tried Rohner socks. When it comes to socks I have only a few requirements. Firstly, they MUST be knee high socks. I despise ankle or calf socks with formal trousers of any kind. Secondly, I like durable socks. I generally get them from T & A ( I have an argyle sock fetish I think), and T & A are one of the only places I have seen with knee high arglyes. The other is Paul Stuart, who have the most unique patterned socks I have come across in a long while.
I must have smooth, hand-linked toe seams, Phil, and Rohner does them exceedingly well (no point in wearing custom shoes with lumpy socks). By the way, I, too, suffer from a scary Argyle addiction: Rohner offers several attractive patterns. But if you're shopping at T&A and Paul Stuart, I can imagine that you are buying superior stuff. Have you tried conically knit socks? These are made to stay up, regardless of length. The design follows the line of a person's leg--the sock is knit progressively looser as it climbs, which allows it to remain in place without undue constriction, resulting in an ankle-length sock that functions properly. For those who cannot abide knee length socks, conical knitting is a real blessing. Merely for your information, Phil.... Regards, Jack
post #128 of 201
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STYLESTUDENT--Black tassel loafers with the glen plaid suit: I couldn't agree with you more.  (The "value" contrast will be striking--that is, dark footwear with relatively light clothing.) It would be interesting to know what others think about this combination.  Especially in view of former admonitions against wearing tassel loafers with suits under any circumstances whatsoever.  Prohibition still operative?
I mentioned this in a prev. post, my disagreement over tassels with suits, but you know, the idea of the black tassle with the grey glen plaid seems spot on to me. I must change my mind now. And I know of course that in Boston the tassel with the suit is perfectly acceptable. I'd also add that brown reverse-calf with a navy suit is rather smashing.
post #129 of 201
Who says that loafers shouldn't be worn with a suit. Rubbish. l wear loafers with suits quite often and l am not in the entertainment industry. You can't tell me these Artioli loafers are not dressy with a suit Nuff said.
post #130 of 201
I'll jump in on the tassel bandwagon too. Here in Washington, DC, wearing tassel loafers with a suit is perhaps more common than wearing lace-ups. I'm referring not to the Bass Weejun/penny loafer style, but to the Brooks Brothers/Alden style (which is far dressier than the weejun style).
post #131 of 201
Black shoes are booooring. Tan or cordovan for me please.
post #132 of 201
STYLESTUDENT--I have not been able to find the RL photo you mentioned in Flusseer's last book. (I asume you mean "Dressing the Man"?) Could you please give me a page number? Thanks, Mike
post #133 of 201
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STYLESTUDENT--I have not been able to find the RL photo you mentioned in Flusseer's last book. (I asume you mean "Dressing the Man"?) Could you please give me a page number? Thanks, Mike
Pg 69 - but you'll have to take Flusser's word for it.
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(kidkim2 @ 08 Oct. 2004, 10:14) STYLESTUDENT--I have not been able to find the RL photo you mentioned in Flusseer's last book. (I asume you mean "Dressing the Man"?)  Could you please give me a page number? Thanks, Mike
Pg 69 - but you'll have to take Flusser's word for it.
Mike and Timeless Rider, The top half of the glen plaid ensemble, featuring Ralph Lauren in the flesh, is shown on page 268.
post #135 of 201
STYLESTUDENT and timelessrider-- Thanks a million. The old goat looks great, doesn't he? And IMHO RL's socks show Duke of Windsor-level panache. Wow. BTW, I picked up my two Oxxford suits (Sartorial Solutions) from Ernesto the tailor this morning, changing out of my grey Brioni on the spot, strolling away in the black-and-white glen plaid (with an almost imperceptible tracery of heliotrope and sky blue). The shoe picture on p. 69 of Flusser's book makes me almost regret having worn my J&M Handmades (black wingtip bals). I'm now convinced the Alden tassel loafers (in black shell cordovan) will look, if possible, even better. (But gotta get them socks.)
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