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post #46 of 252
all this spoilered commentary is awkward hah...

whats next ! put it up so i can watch tonight or else will have to wait till end of week again redface.gif
post #47 of 252
i know my turn is a long way off, but i was wondering if korean cinema is popular around these parts...
post #48 of 252
Nothing is popular, post anything. Its all fair game!
post #49 of 252
there are a few i'd like to share, but i'm not sure which would be best. a lot of them were really big blockbusters in korea, but i'm not sure how much viewership they got overseas
post #50 of 252

Just got done watching it

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

And I'm not really sure I have much to say... I enjoyed it, but I definitely don't think it was very special. I really liked the pace of the film and the way it was shot, but I think the plot and the dialogue were sort of lacking, and not in a good way, I didn't feel like it was subtle I just felt... there was something missing, it felt quite superficial.

 
I did, however, like the final few scenes a lot. And the casting was great too. Very excited to see what the next film will be, dwyhajlo!

 

post #51 of 252
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

there are a few i'd like to share, but i'm not sure which would be best. a lot of them were really big blockbusters in korea, but i'm not sure how much viewership they got overseas

I have watched a loooot of the big Korean movies but wouldn't mind seeing them again. I think these days almost all of the really good and popular ones are available on netflix. What are you thinking?
post #52 of 252
I was considering Welcome to Dongmakgol, Shiri, Ajusshi (The Man from Nowhere, if only for the knife fight scene towards the end), Crucible (Silenced), or Friends, in no particular order. I feel like something like Silmido would be too Korean in taste, and a lot of the story would be lost in translation.
post #53 of 252
Should just post no heads up in fact would be even more fun to have the filename just be ,.mp4 or whatever extension/format so we go in nearly blind no pre-judgements hehe
post #54 of 252
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

I was considering Welcome to Dongmakgol, Shiri, Ajusshi (The Man from Nowhere, if only for the knife fight scene towards the end), Crucible (Silenced), or Friends, in no particular order. I feel like something like Silmido would be too Korean in taste, and a lot of the story would be lost in translation.

FWIW, I really liked Memories of Murder and Mother.

I'm going to post up the movie I had planned on as soon as it finishes downloading. I just realized that the copy I already had was a massive HD file. Woops!
What's the protocol for this? Do I just copy + past into the Dropbox or do I have to delete the old movie first? How much space do we have for this folder?
post #55 of 252
Thread Starter 
Just copy paste it. If we follow the schedule you have until Tuesday though.

There's about 3,5GB of free space right now.


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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

I was considering Welcome to Dongmakgol, Shiri, Ajusshi (The Man from Nowhere, if only for the knife fight scene towards the end), Crucible (Silenced), or Friends, in no particular order. I feel like something like Silmido would be too Korean in taste, and a lot of the story would be lost in translation.

Yeah post whatever you want, there's no point in posting hugely popular films that everyone has seen already anyway. I wouldn't mind rewatching Friends (I think), I don't remember much about it. I think I saw the other ones you listed too but it's pretty hazy.
post #56 of 252
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Originally Posted by sipang View Post

Just copy paste it. If we follow the schedule you have until Tuesday though.

Ah, well perhaps I'll hold off until Tuesday then. I won't let myself be bullied by the shah. Can't appear weak at this early juncture.
post #57 of 252
bully eek.gif !!?
everything i say is merely suggestive...i simply enable,

on another note, i'm bubbling with anticipation for when it's my turn ! my tastes are eclectic (i think) and not at all unified so hopefully we get to do this for a few rounds :-)
post #58 of 252
I thought it was a great film. The long shots reminded me of Kubrick (paths of glory especially) and Hitchcock (the ambiguity and tension of the closeup shot where Roth opens the envelope and the key in palm shot in notorious as an extreme example). the atmosphere of still quiet perfection reminded me barry lyndon and ozu's tokyo story. The last scene reminded me of reservoir dogs but in an incredibly concentrated, noiseless, tense sort of way.
post #59 of 252
Finally watched the movie and quite enjoyed it. Wasn't great, but definitely not bad at all. The pacing was exactly the sort of thing I needed right now too.

I quite liked the pacing and the "lack" slstr mentioned. The scene with Tim Roth and Vanessa Redgrave where he sees her for the first time was so well done. Made me remember times I had gone to speak with my mother whenever she had a serious migraine or something and she got up anyway to talk to me. Was just perfectly done in my opinion.

The final shot made me think of the fatalism one associates with Eastern Europe and Russians in general. Probably the first time I have watched a movie with this sort of mindset set in the US.
post #60 of 252
Thread Starter 
^ Definitely. Gray comes from a Russian Jewish family, that helps.


Well, I liked. A lot. But I'm a huge fan of James Gray and this first film already contains the core themes and treatment of his following stuff so it's no surprise really. I don't see the fact the Josh is a hitman as overly dramatic, that's just part of the film noir setting in which the film operates. But you realize that Gray just use that setting as a springboard to film what he's really interested in, the muffled inexorable agony of this family (Joshua is almost like a living dead, just visiting). It's a one hour and half long funeral march, haunting, glacial.

That feeling that the first minute of the film (the chorus, the darkness, the empty eyes) tells you:you already know how this ends. The use of wide shots and long takes contribute to this feeling, the characters appear removed, isolated in the snowy landscapes (that makes Little Odessa look even more insular, closed in on itself), prisoner of their environments, powerless. There's a distance that makes it difficult to identify with them, you can only watch from afar as their fates unfold. The pace is contemplative, the average shot length in a US film today is around 2-3 seconds, the average short length in Little Odessa is 12 seconds. In addition, the use of the (slow) zoom (which has also become quite rare in today's films) heightens this feeling of isolation (even when zooming in, like in the scene with the father and his mistress in bed). I feel like the zoom is also a great way to evoke some kind of inexorability, like an external force that move things forward while keeping the characters immobile, frozen. In contrast, the few handheld sequences (as jwjp pointed out) feel strangely weightless like some ghost is peeking over a shoulder or smthg.

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Originally Posted by BillKillgore View Post

Secondly it was pretty odd how with so much dialogue at hand the characters revealed so little about themselves. I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to care about in the end; terminator kid didn't even have any dreams or aspirations, neither did anyone else.

I have to disagree with this. This is much more a film of silences than dialogues to me, and some of those silences said more than any dialogue could (there's a lot to be said about Gray's directing of actors imo). I don't think you can hold the fact that the Reuben kid din't have any aspirations against the film, that is the film.


The film definitely has some flaws though. I wasn't bothered by the "nobody must know I'm here" thing, didn't even register on my radar tbh (seems like a pretty irrelevant detail when considering what the film accomplishes as a whole, but I can see how it can be annoying). The whole girlfriend storyline could've been better developed, as it is it definitely felt tacked on to me. The editing also felt a bit spasmodic, there was a lack of fluidity that made the succession of sequences a bit clunky and it definitely pulled me out of the film at times. That said, I think the film manages to work wonderfully despite all those flaws, which to me is a testament to how otherwise well made it is.


More ramblings to come later probably.




Did anyone else (besides those who have already posted) got a chance to watch it ?

Anyone else familiar with James gray ?




indesertum, did you watch it on iPad in the end ? Glad you liked it.
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