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post #16 of 50
2/24/13 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right about the following:

1) Flannel doesn't make it much if at all less formal. It makes it wintry.

2) Flannel plus those trad details plus brass buttons doesn't make it discordant. It's a very classic configuration, sold for decades by stores like Brooks Bros.

3) Those trad details do and do not make it informal (as far as blue blazers go). This blazer could be worn well with anything from white shirt, repp tie, and mid gray worsted wool pants to well-worn ocbd, no tie, and rumpled cotton chinos, cords or faded denim -- with or without a fine merino sweater for the formal side or a shaggy shetland for the informal. So its range reaches as high as what might be considered the most formal of blazers, but it also reaches down pretty low. A good argument for its purchase.

This sums it up. What you have is a classical blue blazer. If it has patch/flap pockets it is modeled on the Brooks Brothers garment sold in the University Shop and the 346 Shop during the Ivy heyday..
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post #17 of 50
2/24/13 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Dark navy serge DB blazer with brass buttons+ gray trousers is more CBD than, say, a navy linen suit IMHO. Manton would have to give the final ruling.

 

Yeah, but linen isn't a lounge suit, right?

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post #18 of 50
2/24/13 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

Flannel plus those trad details plus brass buttons doesn't make it discordant. It's a very classic configuration, sold for decades by stores like Brooks Bros.
 

 

Absolutely right.

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post #19 of 50
2/24/13 at 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

Yeah, but linen isn't a lounge suit, right?

Rly? I've always thougt a lounge suit was basically anything that today would be called a suit. At least that was the original meaning. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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post #20 of 50
2/24/13 at 9:16pm
You can definitely dress this up nearly as much as you like, empty is correct.

If you wear it with a tie, white shirt, and dress trousers, you can wear it anywhere you could wear something similar but in serge with flaps.

I think the tradly details give it an attitude thats more collegiate rather than corporate, so you might consider that a less formal sort of feel. But it would require a suit-only setting for this jacket to be inappropriately informal.
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post #21 of 50
2/24/13 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post


Rly? I've always thougt a lounge suit was basically anything that today would be called a suit. At least that was the original meaning. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I really don't know the final answer to this either, but for whatever reason when I think lounge suit I think something you would wear for business. When I think linen suit I think something else entirely. I might be wrong, but that's just been my own perception.

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post #22 of 50
2/24/13 at 9:27pm
Since the suit was originally very much something not worn for business, but rather something you might wear between "work" (haha) and dinner (which would require evening clothes at this time and place), I don't agree with your assessment.

That said, surely none of these original suits were of linen. Since the term "lounge suit" isn't really used much anymore, it's kind of pointless to argue over what its creators would have called a garment that didn't exist at the time, except maybe as something to be worn on vacation somewhere tropical.

The modern term "business suit" doesn't necessarily exclude linen. It's yet another clothing term that, now that menswear has become less standardized, clearly excludes some suits, clearly includes others, and leaves a whole lot of grey area.
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post #23 of 50
2/24/13 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

The modern term "business suit" doesn't necessarily exclude linen.

 

Well if it doesn't, it ought to.

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post #24 of 50
2/24/13 at 10:05pm
Why go for that when you can go for a Brooks Brothers or Norman Hilton blazer?

http://shop.nickhilton.com/jackets/the-charter/


you'll love the Hilton one, and the BB ones are classics. Its a very versatile item in your wardrobe, better to get it right and spend a little extra if you have to. just so its clear, a blazer isn't formal, its meant for informal social gatherings.
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post #25 of 50
2/24/13 at 10:14pm
I don't know what you mean by "informal social gatherings" but for many men in the US, a blazer is fine, if not ideal, for the most formal social gatherings they will ever attend, even weddings and funerals. Plus most restaurants, religious services, or networking type social events.
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post #26 of 50
2/24/13 at 10:20pm

I'd wear the hell out of the one in question. Better than most. Anybody who thinks patch-and-flap pockets are wrong with brass buttons isn't playing by the same rules as me.

 

What's your source? I want one.

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post #27 of 50
2/25/13 at 3:26am
Actually, the point was that flap+patch pockets and flannel and very smart & shiny brass buttons is a discordant mix.

I think there's some confusion between:
(1) a serge twill navy blazer with brass buttons -- the most formal odd jacket possible; on par with most lounge suits apart from when suits are specifically prescribed. This blazer would look out of place in truly "casual settings";
(2) a superabundance of other blue and navy blazers -- these can be dressed either up or down, and can be in (almost) any number of combinations of detail and fabric. However, they will rarely be as formal as (1), nor will they have the same associations.
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post #28 of 50
2/25/13 at 3:34am
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Edited by Loathing - 2/25/13 at 5:19pm
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post #29 of 50
2/25/13 at 3:37am
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Originally Posted by Loathing View Post


You're an ill-mannered chap. I'm certainly not going to bother to dig up a source for a kid like you. Take it or leave it.

 

I think all he was doing was expressing a like for the jacket the OP posted and wanted to know where he could get one.

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post #30 of 50
2/25/13 at 3:43am
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

... he ... wanted to know where he could get one.

If that is the case, then his grammar is wrong / I misunderstood.
Edited by Loathing - 2/25/13 at 5:19pm
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