Thanks for the response. That's what I figured, but I wasn't sure because the few times I have gone during the sale, they haven't had anything I like available in my size.
I appear to have joined the John Lobb family of fans. I've been intrigued by the museum calf John Lobb offers but I've never purchased a pair before - that is until yesterday.
I have a large collection of shoes (mostly Aldens and Allen Edmonds (spare me the critique if you will). However there are two items missing: a pair of double monk straps and a pair of navy dress shoes (in any style). In a moment of holiday weakness (or brilliance, hmmm), I went all out yesterday and ordered three pairs of John Lobbs, two different sizes in the William double monk strap hoping one will fit, and another to serve my lust for a pair of navy lace ups.
Monk straps. The monk straps I ordered are the William double monk straps (William "I", not William II) offered through Mr. Porter, in plum. Does anyone else have any experience with this color or this model from Mr. Porter? The color is just labeled Plum (not "misty" plum) so I'm not sure what to expect in terms of burnishing or color variation. I'm wondering if this color is simply what we would otherwise call a burgundy calf. I would love to have a pair of monk straps but I've not had good luck in getting a good fit from those I can find locally here in Atlanta - I've tried Alfred Sargent, Edward Green and even Allen Edmonds to no avail. Hopefully one of the two sizes (10 and 10.5) from Lobb will work for me. I really a 10 but sometimes I can make a 10.5 work with a superfeet insolve when the shoe wouldn't otherwise work in a 10.
Oxfords. AND, - and I'm really exciting about these - I've ordered a pair of Willoughby's from the John Lobb site in Lapis museum calf. This is my attempt to find a navy color with a bit more style than a dark navy that could easily be mistaken for black. Any experience with lapis museum calf out there?
Anyway, I can't wait - the shoes are supposed to arrive (from both sources) on January 2. Now I just have to be exquisitely careful about trying on these babies so that I can return one or all of them if they don't work. I hate buying shoes this way (without the opportunity to try them on locally) but it looks like this is the only way to give these a shot (short of booking a round trip flight to New York).
The Plum which is sold on Mr. Porter is Museum Calf leather, meaning it has clear mottled look. It is mistaken with burgundy by most sale persons as they are not very familiar with what they are selling. Most of them never heard before about the names od JL color. The shoe will look most of the time like burgundy yet it is not clearly burgundy.
The Lapis museum calf is color made in collaboration with JL and Paul Smith, and should be reserved for Westbourne Oxford shoes. The Willoughby you are mentioning is Not Oxford shoes, but Derby and Does Not have the Lapis Museum Calf as standard color.
I had the same dilemma as you when ordering the color and didn't wanted to have that mistaken feeling, so I stayed off even with their dark brown color, like Dark Brown Misty calf, that can easily be mistaken with black in lower light condition.
Lapis Blue Museum will be clearly and unmistakeably recognized as blue, which is good. I like the color to be felt, while some other forum member like the feeling on uncertainty in the eye of beholder.
Glad to hear you like them. Well I actually didn't plan on keeping both the lace ups and the monk straps but if the monk straps are also in museum calf I may keep both, assuming the monk straps fit (which has been a real problem for me - I can never get them tight enough across the instep and they generally slip on my heel and if I size down to take care of those two problems I don't have enough room in the toe box. We'll see.