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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

 

In my small sample size (3 JL RTW, City II, Lopez, Woodcote, 1 EG, Oakdale), JL uppers wears more supple and form fitting and soles wears more flexible.  EG wears more stiff at both suppers and soles.  Haven't lived long enough to know the difference after 15-20 years of wear.

 

According to my research on construction (online and print), both are GY welted (poor construction) but use leather foot beds/insole and rest of the components are top notch.  The insoles seems to be decent quality but still far from hand sewn welted insoles.  EG has slightly broader gemming.  EG uses leather shanks and JL uses steel shanks.  BUT aside from the inferior GY welted construction, JL uses heat formed plastic for toe and heel stiffeners while EG uses heat formed plastic stiffeners at toe only.  Real handmade shoes uses leather stiffener.

Why exactly would you call the GY welt a poor construction method?

post #62 of 1354
To not cloud the thread with anything other than appreciation, look up gemming.
post #63 of 1354
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Originally Posted by gyasih View Post

To not cloud the thread with anything other than appreciation, look up gemming.

Thank you.

post #64 of 1354
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Originally Posted by gyasih View Post

To not cloud the thread with anything other than appreciation, look up gemming.

+1

I've read enough gemming / hand welted arguments to last a lifetime confused.gif
post #65 of 1354
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my poor iPhone photo skills but here are some contributions
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Nice collection there C!
post #66 of 1354
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Why exactly would you call the GY welt a poor construction method?

 

Search and learn.  No decent bespoke maker uses GY welt for a very good reason; its inferior.

 

 

John Lobb City II.

1000

post #67 of 1354
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

 

Search and learn.  No decent bespoke maker uses GY welt for a very good reason; its inferior.

 

 

John Lobb City II.

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1000

 

 

Very nice.


Edited by dddrees - 2/25/13 at 11:11am
post #68 of 1354

 

My new Chambord II's... Was looking for a split toe derby. I was thinking about the EG Dover and the Alden NST too, but the Chambord in suede is just perfect!

post #69 of 1354
My Edward loafers in brown museum.

post #70 of 1354
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My new Chambord II's... Was looking for a split toe derby. I was thinking about the EG Dover and the Alden NST too, but the Chambord in suede is just perfect!

 

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My Edward loafers in brown museum.

Excellent Gentlemen!!!

post #71 of 1354
Has anyone had to deal with too much heal slippage with a Lopez loafer? If so, how did you resolve it? Did it get better after break in?

Edit: I was doing further online research and someone on another forum said,"The British have no business making penny loafers" facepalm.gif
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Has anyone had to deal with too much heal slippage with a Lopez loafer? If so, how did you resolve it? Did it get better after break in?

Edit: I was doing further online research and someone on another forum said,"The British have no business making penny loafers" facepalm.gif

I found heel slippage disappeared after breaking in the shoes.
post #73 of 1354
Lobb Bespoke (St. James) Black Calf Wingtips:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/07/elegant-outfitters-of-st-james-street.html

Lobb 2008 in Noisette calf leather (French for Hazelnut?), 7000 last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/05/john-lobb-vintage-2008-very-good-year.html

Lobb City II in New Museum Gold calf leather, 7000:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/08/quintessential-business-shoe-john-lobbs.html

Lobb Tudor Boot in Parisian Brown Museum calf leather, 7000B last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2012/04/chelsea-boot-john-lobbs-tudor.html

Lobb Miami, 2995 last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2012/02/thriftin-aint-easy-john-lobbs-miami.html


I also have a pair of Phillip IIs in Parisian Brown Suede in the closet somewhere but havent gotten around to taking pics yet.
post #74 of 1354
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

Lobb Bespoke (St. James) Black Calf Wingtips:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/07/elegant-outfitters-of-st-james-street.html

Lobb 2008 in Noisette calf leather (French for Hazelnut?), 7000 last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/05/john-lobb-vintage-2008-very-good-year.html

Lobb City II in New Museum Gold calf leather, 7000:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/08/quintessential-business-shoe-john-lobbs.html

Lobb Tudor Boot in Parisian Brown Museum calf leather, 7000B last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2012/04/chelsea-boot-john-lobbs-tudor.html

Lobb Miami, 2995 last:

 



http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2012/02/thriftin-aint-easy-john-lobbs-miami.html


I also have a pair of Phillip IIs in Parisian Brown Suede in the closet somewhere but havent gotten around to taking pics yet.

Great collection, well done.

post #75 of 1354
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

Lobb Bespoke (St. James) Black Calf Wingtips:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/07/elegant-outfitters-of-st-james-street.html

Lobb 2008 in Noisette calf leather (French for Hazelnut?), 7000 last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/05/john-lobb-vintage-2008-very-good-year.html

Lobb City II in New Museum Gold calf leather, 7000:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/08/quintessential-business-shoe-john-lobbs.html

Lobb Tudor Boot in Parisian Brown Museum calf leather, 7000B last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2012/04/chelsea-boot-john-lobbs-tudor.html

Lobb Miami, 2995 last:


http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2012/02/thriftin-aint-easy-john-lobbs-miami.html


I also have a pair of Phillip IIs in Parisian Brown Suede in the closet somewhere but havent gotten around to taking pics yet.

Love the Tudor in Museum Brown
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