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post #586 of 1819
I've never seen bespoke RAF style Oxford.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Prince William wearing such a thing.
post #587 of 1819

 

Preview of John Lobb at LeatherFoot

post #588 of 1819
promo pricing for these too?! bounce2.gif
post #589 of 1819

Gents, a few newbie questions here, very much appreciate your views:

 

I decided to up my shoe game would like to acquire a few JLs. (ordered two C&Js in the mean time).. I went to the boutique, liked the Ashill Monks in dark brown vey much, tried on (fit is ok) but taking a few steps in the shop, the upper leather immediately wrinkled. I thought it was a specific issue for this shoe so I told to the sales guy that I will come back whey have new stock.

 

Fast forward a few days- Harrods have a 10% sale. Great to see,  let's order online. However, the sample shoe in the Harrods site had exactly the same wrinkles.

 

http://www.harrods.com/product/ashill-monk-strap-buckle-/john-lobb/000000000003146596?cat1=new-shoes&cat2=shoes-men-all

 

I have easily 60-65 pairs of shoes, mainly Italian, Todd's, SF, Gucci, Bally, Santoni etc and a few Church's (they are the main reason why I stayed away from English shoes for years until discovering better stuff) and never see any of my shoes having this in a matter of few steps:

 

So, the questions:

 

- is this normal? how "real" stuff should be as opposed to my generic shoes

- am I too picky?

- if yes to the above, should I move up in the JL pyramid and go for an higher end models?

 

Thanks in advance...

post #590 of 1819
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Originally Posted by alpyigit View Post

Gents, a few newbie questions here, very much appreciate your views:

I decided to up my shoe game would like to acquire a few JLs. (ordered two C&Js in the mean time).. I went to the boutique, liked the Ashill Monks in dark brown vey much, tried on (fit is ok) but taking a few steps in the shop, the upper leather immediately wrinkled. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I thought it was a specific issue for this shoe so I told to the sales guy that I will come back whey have new stock.

Fast forward a few days- Harrods have a 10% sale. Great to see,  let's order online. However, the sample shoe in the Harrods site had exactly the same wrinkles.

http://www.harrods.com/product/ashill-monk-strap-buckle-/john-lobb/000000000003146596?cat1=new-shoes&cat2=shoes-men-all

I have easily 60-65 pairs of shoes, mainly Italian, Todd's, SF, Gucci, Bally, Santoni etc and a few Church's (they are the main reason why I stayed away from English shoes for years until discovering better stuff) and never see any of my shoes having this in a matter of few steps:

So, the questions:

- is this normal? how "real" stuff should be as opposed to my generic shoes
- am I too picky?
- if yes to the above, should I move up in the JL pyramid and go for an higher end models?

Thanks in advance...
I think uppers tend to wrinkle once you wear them... I'm not sure where specifically on the uppers you're concerned about. Generally, if the shape/last doesn't match well to your feet, there will be more wrinkles, especially on shoes with less design (e.g., wholecuts, plain toes).

Personally my JL shoes hold up well and one of the few shoes that I have that use aniline uppers (I prefer crust).

Good luck!
post #591 of 1819
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Originally Posted by alpyigit View Post

Gents, a few newbie questions here, very much appreciate your views:

I decided to up my shoe game would like to acquire a few JLs. (ordered two C&Js in the mean time).. I went to the boutique, liked the Ashill Monks in dark brown vey much, tried on (fit is ok) but taking a few steps in the shop, the upper leather immediately wrinkled. I thought it was a specific issue for this shoe so I told to the sales guy that I will come back whey have new stock.

Fast forward a few days- Harrods have a 10% sale. Great to see,  let's order online. However, the sample shoe in the Harrods site had exactly the same wrinkles.

http://www.harrods.com/product/ashill-monk-strap-buckle-/john-lobb/000000000003146596?cat1=new-shoes&cat2=shoes-men-all

I have easily 60-65 pairs of shoes, mainly Italian, Todd's, SF, Gucci, Bally, Santoni etc and a few Church's (they are the main reason why I stayed away from English shoes for years until discovering better stuff) and never see any of my shoes having this in a matter of few steps:

So, the questions:

- is this normal? how "real" stuff should be as opposed to my generic shoes
- am I too picky?
- if yes to the above, should I move up in the JL pyramid and go for an higher end models?

Thanks in advance...

I find JL misty calf thinner than EG calf.

It depends on your foot shape vs. shoe last but my JL creases from the first wear. Just use some wax cream over.

This is a good post about shoe creasing:
http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/10/mythbuster-part-1-leather-creasing-means-something-is-wrong.html
post #592 of 1819

Just received these in Black Misty Calf .. They instantly became my favorite pair of loafers.

 

post #593 of 1819

^ Nice looking loafers!

Wear them in good health :fonz:

post #594 of 1819

Thank you!

post #595 of 1819
Quote:
Originally Posted by alpyigit View Post

Gents, a few newbie questions here, very much appreciate your views:

I decided to up my shoe game would like to acquire a few JLs. (ordered two C&Js in the mean time).. I went to the boutique, liked the Ashill Monks in dark brown vey much, tried on (fit is ok) but taking a few steps in the shop, the upper leather immediately wrinkled. I thought it was a specific issue for this shoe so I told to the sales guy that I will come back whey have new stock.

Fast forward a few days- Harrods have a 10% sale. Great to see,  let's order online. However, the sample shoe in the Harrods site had exactly the same wrinkles.

http://www.harrods.com/product/ashill-monk-strap-buckle-/john-lobb/000000000003146596?cat1=new-shoes&cat2=shoes-men-all

I have easily 60-65 pairs of shoes, mainly Italian, Todd's, SF, Gucci, Bally, Santoni etc and a few Church's (they are the main reason why I stayed away from English shoes for years until discovering better stuff) and never see any of my shoes having this in a matter of few steps:

So, the questions:

- is this normal? how "real" stuff should be as opposed to my generic shoes
- am I too picky?
- if yes to the above, should I move up in the JL pyramid and go for an higher end models?

Thanks in advance...

You might have a low instep.

I have a low instep, and certain shoe models wrinkle at the top because of the excess room in the top of the toe box.

Good luck though; I can't wait to get my first JLs at some point!
post #596 of 1819

Hi gents;

I'm considering picking up a pair of Lobbs to flagship my shoe fleet; being none too familiar with the high end of shoes, I'm not qualified to make an assessment, but from what I've heard they're pretty much the pinnacle of the RTWs in terms of construction and leather quality. Currently I'm thinking of a pair of Chapels in dark brown museum, but I'm a bit uncertain as even though I do love the looks of the object itself, I'm afraid it might a bit too showy to actually wear. I would also like to hear if there are some special or iconic styles which would be better for a first-time buyer - I'm not looking for anything in particular, but am not looking for loafers. 

Also, I'd like to ask about where a good place to buy from is - given that I don't know my lasts yet, preferably a place where I can try them on. I am currently located in the bay area, but am relocating to Australia at the end of the year (where I suspect it would be a lot harder and more expensive to acquire a pair).

Thanks!

 

post #597 of 1819
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Originally Posted by mezentius View Post
 

Hi gents;

I'm considering picking up a pair of Lobbs to flagship my shoe fleet; being none too familiar with the high end of shoes, I'm not qualified to make an assessment, but from what I've heard they're pretty much the pinnacle of the RTWs in terms of construction and leather quality. Currently I'm thinking of a pair of Chapels in dark brown museum, but I'm a bit uncertain as even though I do love the looks of the object itself, I'm afraid it might a bit too showy to actually wear. I would also like to hear if there are some special or iconic styles which would be better for a first-time buyer - I'm not looking for anything in particular, but am not looking for loafers. 

Also, I'd like to ask about where a good place to buy from is - given that I don't know my lasts yet, preferably a place where I can try them on. I am currently located in the bay area, but am relocating to Australia at the end of the year (where I suspect it would be a lot harder and more expensive to acquire a pair).

Thanks!

 

I know Wilkes Bashford at least used to carry JLs.  Might be worth stopping by there to figure out your sizing if they still stock them.

post #598 of 1819
I'd recommend the Philip 2 for a Lobb to start, it's classic and versatile, comes in several browns, plum (which I have and love), black and I think I've even seen brown suede.
Bay area Neiman marcus used to stock Phillips and I think Wilkes might, but Neiman's selection is pretty thin now. Not sure about Wilkes.
good luck, hope you find a pair you like! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #599 of 1819
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Originally Posted by calidist View Post
 

I know Wilkes Bashford at least used to carry JLs.  Might be worth stopping by there to figure out your sizing if they still stock them.

Wilkes, Barney's, and Neiman Marcus all carry John Lobb in Union Square.

post #600 of 1819
My favorite Lobb salesmen are the guys at Neimans followed by the guys at Wilkes. Each store will have somewhat different inventory. Barney's has a nice selection too but the shoe sales associates keep changing. With Lobb you really want to dial in your shoe size and last preference. There is a big difference in lasts and fits in the same size. You want someone who will help you find what works best for you. Good luck!
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