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post #241 of 1044
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

Do people need to knee down for the customer?
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

In Japan, they always kneel in front of a sitting customer.....not sure why M. Mandonini was though lol8[1].gif



If you get a pair of bespoke shoes, the fitter (in this case M Mandonini, who I presume is the guy in the apron) has no choice but to get down on his knees when drawing the customer's outline, taking his measurements and (if used) placing the foot onto an ink pad. Later during the trial and final fitting, he is again kneeling down to inspect all the details. There is virtually no way around the fitter kneeling: it's a question of practicality, not a sign of deference.

I remember, yonks ago, the old Maxwell shop in South Audley Street having a "throne" (raised by two steps) set-up for fittings. That might have enabled the fitter to work from a little stool, But as fitters work differently (some prefer the customer's weight 'off', others 'on'), for weight on he still would have needed to kneel down. No idea, if there are still firms who use a throne for fittings (and obviously only in their own premises; they are not likely to travel with a throne to their trunk shows in the States or Japan.

When I had my bespoke last made by an elderly man, for whom kneeling down was obviously difficult and painful, I felt rather guilty about putting the poor man through this procedure. But there was no way it could have been done without the fitter kneeling down,.

I remember a television chat show with that old raconteur the late Peter Ustinov, talking about receiving his knighthood. One of the Queen's officials enquired prior to the ceremony, whether Ustinov was able to kneel down. His reply (delivered barking and grumpily):

"Yes, I can kneel down...........but I can't get up again!"
post #242 of 1044
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And my most recent addition. John Lobb x Paul Smith Willoughby in grey cashmere suede.

these are great. what pants will you wear them with? I have something similar that i haven't been wearing because something else always seems to go better with what I'm wearing
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

these are great. what pants will you wear them with? I have something similar that i haven't been wearing because something else always seems to go better with what I'm wearing

Cheers. I'd been lusting over them for about a year and finally decided to pull the trigger a few weeks back. I had them on midweek with a pair of white chinos that I thought worked quite well. Should work with denim too. I'm thinking a casual suit too.
post #244 of 1044
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post

If you get a pair of bespoke shoes, the fitter (in this case M Mandonini, who I presume is the guy in the apron) has no choice but to get down on his knees when drawing the customer's outline, taking his measurements and (if used) placing the foot onto an ink pad. Later during the trial and final fitting, he is again kneeling down to inspect all the details. There is virtually no way around the fitter kneeling: it's a question of practicality, not a sign of deference.

I only recall kneeing when taking measurements and examining fit. But certainly none of the shoe makers I have encounter will knee in front of me for a dialogue.

I guess I ain't a prestigious man lol8[1].gif
post #245 of 1044

 

 

 

 

Madison 10, 7000 Last, DB Museum...

These are gorgeous!

post #246 of 1044

2 pairs of John Lobb crocs -

 

Becketts & Chapel.

 

 

 

 

 

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Like the Becketts much more than Chapel; the one piece cut design of Chapel takes a lot away from playing with pattern cutting on crocs...

 

The Becketts have very nice pattern cutting!

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Originally Posted by tacobender View Post

So, most of you know me from the c+j and g&g threads...
I have the summer mark down lists for the sale @ barneys for the JL's...

email me @ rtischler@barneys.com to see if we have your size and ill gladly set them aside for you.

http://www.barneys.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-BNY-Site/default/Search-Show?q=501916264


Thanks as always,
Ryan

Ooo, 2010 Saint Crepins!
post #250 of 1044
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

Ooo, 2010 Saint Crepins!

And the green becketts are awesome too.
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

And the green becketts are awesome too.

Yeah been wanting those for a while, both pairs come with trees too which is nice
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I'm home for the night so ill respond to all emails tmrw first thing.
Thanks for the orders today!
post #253 of 1044
Becketts from Barneys are 8000 last? Any comparison to Edward Green or Gaziano & Girling sizing? (10.5 UK in all those, 202 last fits best)
post #254 of 1044
Size down half. 9.5E/F EG/G&G, 9E/EE 7000/8000.

7000/8000 has less toe room an narrower than GG06, the equivalent of EG 202.
post #255 of 1044
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Size down half. 9.5E/F EG/G&G, 9E/EE 7000/8000.

7000/8000 has less toe room an narrower than GG06, the equivalent of EG 202.

Thanks that is what I figured. Could go to Beverly Hills store to try on but not worth effort
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