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great so if I want it to sit on the part of my waist that is 32inchs in diameter, I will order a 29 which is really 30 which will stretch to 31/32 and finally sit at the right spot. I will err on the side of slightly larger than slightly small *crosses fingers that they fit well!*
I have about 5 pairs of jeans in size 30. My New Standards are a 28 though, and they fit perfectly. I didn't measure them initially but they're around 31 or 32 now, and I wear my jeans a little above my hips which measures 31".











