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post #361 of 13614
Yes. That's not a misprint. I'm a size 32 and was able to fit into a pair of size 29s when i tried them on back in decemeber when i was in boston(can't try them on in central-north florida). They pretty much always stretch out to where they're comfortable for you. http://supertalk.superfuture.com/showthread.php?t=7091 If you search enough you should be able to find pictures of APC NSs pre and post stretch in there. It's not that they just stretch out a lot, it's that they're incorrectly tagged by an inch or 2. When you buy a size 29 APC NS like the measurement i posted, it really measured about a 31 brand new. Incorrectly tagged and stretching a lot means size down 2 or 3 if you really want. If you are too nervous to buy APCs because you are afraid they won't stretch (they always stretch) then just buy a different brand of jeans. Nudies don't stretch as much and the rule of thumb for nudies is to just size down 1. Rag and Bone RB15 is a slim fit similar in a way to APC NS post stretch and don't have the same stretching issues either. Kicking Mule Workshop 1980 or Rocker might also work. Dior Homme 19 or 21 cm. Iron Army Hiro Itos or something like that are similar. Tons of other brands if you look hard enough. If you don't want to believe me when i say they STRETCH A LOT then i can't help you.
post #362 of 13614
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Originally Posted by chronoaug View Post
Yes. That's not a misprint. I'm a size 32 and was able to fit into a pair of size 29s when i tried them on back in decemeber when i was in boston(can't try them on in central-north florida). They pretty much always stretch out to where they're comfortable for you. http://supertalk.superfuture.com/showthread.php?t=7091 If you search enough you should be able to find pictures of APC NSs pre and post stretch in there. It's not that they just stretch out a lot, it's that they're incorrectly tagged by an inch or 2. When you buy a size 29 APC NS like the measurement i posted, it really measured about a 31 brand new. Incorrectly tagged and stretching a lot means size down 2 or 3 if you really want.

If you are too nervous to buy APCs because you are afraid they won't stretch (they always stretch) then just buy a different brand of jeans. Nudies don't stretch as much and the rule of thumb for nudies is to just size down 1. Rag and Bone RB15 is a slim fit similar in a way to APC NS post stretch and don't have the same stretching issues either. Kicking Mule Workshop 1980 or Rocker might also work. Dior Homme 19 or 21 cm. Iron Army Hiro Itos or something like that are similar. Tons of other brands if you look hard enough. If you don't want to believe me when i say they STRETCH A LOT then i can't help you.

Thanks for the response. I'll dig into it some more. It's not like I don't believe you and I'm sorry if you're offended!
post #363 of 13614
I'm not offended, but it mainly seems like you don't trust the fact that they'll stretch. I know it's hard to believe a size 29 will measure a 33 or even 34 after a month of wear. I wasn't trying to be rude, but i'd seriously reccomend looking into another brand if you're worried. There are plenty out there with slim but not skinny cuts. General rule that you can use and never go wrong with. Whatever your normal waist is (whatever jeans you own that fit you snugly in the waist, use that size) go down 2 sizes and you'll be ok. They won't be super slim or skinny at all after a week or 2 of wear. They will be slim at first but don't be afraid. You may as well just order a pair 2-3 sizes down, wear them for 2 weeks and see if you like the stretch at that point. If not, you can always sell them on superfuture and get about $90-$100 for them, which isn't a big drop from $110 and you could even sell them on ebay for at least $100 so you pretty much have nothing to lose.
post #364 of 13614
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Get a size 29 or 30.
Thanks for that. So a 30 wont kill me? And about the inseam of the New standard.. how long is it exactly. I read 34, 35, and 36. I am a 32.. wont i loose like all the taper if i hem them? That would suck. But still a world apart from my RRDS i guess..?
post #365 of 13614
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Thanks for that. So a 30 wont kill me?

And about the inseam of the New standard.. how long is it exactly. I read 34, 35, and 36. I am a 32.. wont i loose like all the taper if i hem them?
That would suck. But still a world apart from my RRDS i guess..?

My NS measure 35. I've lost an inch from honeycombs. Chrono, i think the reason people insist on stretching questions is because everyone is really worried about paying for something that they'll end up not liking. REALLY worried. I am too as i can't afford to buy 3 pairs of the same jean and return two others like most people here. I'm thinking about getting the new cures if i can fit into them. Let me ask you something though. Will they stretch? Lol jk... I'm just hoping denim bar writes me back so i can get an idea how skinny the legs are. Maybe they are like levi's 511 skinny's?
post #366 of 13614
There is very little risk since you can always sell them back here or sufu and only lose about $10 or sell them on ebay and pretty much get all your money back even if they're used. People on ebay go nuts for APC NSs in sizes like 30 if they're not hemmed. Should be able to get $100 no problem, plus they pay for shipping. Trebor, i wouldn't hem them. Having an extra 2 inches at your height(probably 6ft if you wear a 32, right?) the length should be fine. Because the hem is smaller than jeans you're used to, they'll sit on your shoes better and look better with a little bit of length as opposed to being right at your normal inseam. I usually prefer my jeans 1-3" longer depnding on how small the hem is. I don't think you'd need to get them hemmed because they'll probably measure about a 34-35, and will shrink .5-1" in the inseam if you hot soak them if you really want to shrink the inseam(the rest of the jean won't shrink or anything except back to tagged size if you washed them, you don't have to soak these first at all). If everyone is that afraid of buying these jeans, then perhaps premium raw denim isn't for you. It's not an exact science, especially with APCS. Just sizing down 2 blindly from your normal size that jeans would be snug will never fail you and never be too tight after stretch. If you can't take that leap of faith, then it's going to be even more difficult if you ever want to buy other brands. I bought my PBJs and i hated the rise and the way the material would keep rubbing my upper thigh, but they've stretched and gotten better. I'm still thinking of selling them for another pair, but they stretched and they look great. You can always resell these jeans here and sufu which is the nice thing. Makes me feel a bit better when paying $200 for jeans knowing i can get most my money back. This is a guy from sufu who sized down 1 in new cures (32 to a 31). Click on it to view bigger.
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post #367 of 13614
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Originally Posted by chronoaug View Post
There is very little risk since you can always sell them back here or sufu and only lose about $10 or sell them on ebay and pretty much get all your money back even if they're used. People on ebay go nuts for APC NSs in sizes like 30 if they're not hemmed. Should be able to get $100 no problem, plus they pay for shipping.

Trebor, i wouldn't hem them. Having an extra 2 inches at your height(probably 6ft if you wear a 32, right?) the length should be fine. Because the hem is smaller than jeans you're used to, they'll sit on your shoes better and look better with a little bit of length as opposed to being right at your normal inseam. I usually prefer my jeans 1-3" longer depnding on how small the hem is. I don't think you'd need to get them hemmed because they'll probably measure about a 34-35, and will shrink .5-1" in the inseam if you hot soak them if you really want to shrink the inseam(the rest of the jean won't shrink or anything except back to tagged size if you washed them, you don't have to soak these first at all).

If everyone is that afraid of buying these jeans, then perhaps premium raw denim isn't for you. It's not an exact science, especially with APCS. Just sizing down 2 blindly from your normal size that jeans would be snug will never fail you and never be too tight after stretch. If you can't take that leap of faith, then it's going to be even more difficult if you ever want to buy other brands. I bought my PBJs and i hated the rise and the way the material would keep rubbing my upper thigh, but they've stretched and gotten better. I'm still thinking of selling them for another pair, but they stretched and they look great. You can always resell these jeans here and sufu which is the nice thing. Makes me feel a bit better when paying $200 for jeans knowing i can get most my money back.

This is a guy from sufu who sized down 1 in new cures (32 to a 31). Click on it to view bigger.

Those look good Chrono. And from what i've been reading, they are pretty true to waist so sizing 1 down seems okay as it would be what i normally do with any pair of jeans. I never go with my true waist size because the crotch gets too baggy. I'll let you know when denimbar writes me back with measurements.
post #368 of 13614
Anyone try to stretch their NS inseams recently? How many inches?
post #369 of 13614
On all jeans you don't get a ton, maybe .5-1". I've done it with my rigid 514s a few months ago when i still wore them.
post #370 of 13614
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On all jeans you don't get a ton, maybe .5-1". I've done it with my rigid 514s a few months ago when i still wore them.

Well some people have been saying their apc inseams shrunk 1 inch while others say they shrank insignificantly... I would love it if they didn't shrink and i could get an extra inch on them. I could use it.
post #371 of 13614
Don't pull on your inseams while wet and they'll probably shrink .5-1" if wash them hot and especially if you dry them. That happens to every pair of jeans there are. Even predistressed mall brands. If you want to maintain your original inseam or stretch it out a tiny bit, you can stand on the waist and tug at the legs pretty hard while wet to stretch the inseam. I've done it before as have others.
post #372 of 13614
I'm at the point where I'd like to wash mine, but I'm afraid of losing length because they're absolutely perfect right now.
post #373 of 13614
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Originally Posted by chronoaug View Post
Don't pull on your inseams while wet and they'll probably shrink .5-1" if wash them hot and especially if you dry them. That happens to every pair of jeans there are. Even predistressed mall brands. If you want to maintain your original inseam or stretch it out a tiny bit, you can stand on the waist and tug at the legs pretty hard while wet to stretch the inseam. I've done it before as have others.

You said not to pull on the inseams when wet in the beginning of this passage but then at the end to pull on them. ?
post #374 of 13614
pull on them to lengthen/preserve length, don't pull on them to have them shrink a bit. It depends what you want. There is no denim science, it's just common sense.
post #375 of 13614
hi im interested in buying some new cures and i usually buy a 29 waist. so i was thinking of sizing down one but according to context clothing the size 28 is actually 29 in the waist. would sizing down 2 on the new cures be too much? thanks
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